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From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 14:33:49 -0500
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On 3/4/2025 2:20 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 3/4/2025 12:44 PM, joes wrote:
>> Am Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:11:30 -0600 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 3/4/2025 9:08 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 04.mrt.2025 om 15:17 schreef olcott:
>>>>> On 3/4/2025 3:14 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 04.mrt.2025 om 04:07 schreef olcott:
>>
>>>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret"
>>>>>>> instruction and terminate normally.
>>>>>> I wonder why Olcott keeps repeating that HHH fails to reach the 'ret'
>>>>>> instruction, where the direct execution or world-class simulators
>>>>>> have no problem to reach the 'ret' instruction of exactly the same
>>>>>> finite string as input.
>>>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of exactly how DD
>>>>> correctly emulated by HHH reaches its own "ret" instruction.
>>>> And that is exactly what Olcott does not show.
>>> Likewise I never attempt to show exactly how all squares are round.
>>>
>>>> So, my claim remains: HHH fails to reach the 'ret' instruction, where
>>>> the direct execution and some world-class simulators have no problem to
>>>> reach it.
>>> DD calls its own emulator when emulated by HHH.
>>> DD DOES NOT call its own emulator when emulated by HHH1.
>>> DD DOES NOT call its own emulator when directly executed.
> 
>> DD always calls HHH.
>>
> 
> Thus only has a pathological relationship that changes its
> behavior when the code of HHH is replaced with an unconditional simulator and HHH(DD) is run

Well of course the behavior changes if you change the code