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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: The bait was almost swallowed again
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 16:43:17 -0600
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https://ncse.ngo/north-dakotas-intelligent-design-bill-defeated#
QUOTE:
North Dakota's Senate Bill 2355 (PDF), which would have required the
state superintendent of public instruction to "include intelligent
design in the state science content standards for elementary, middle,
and high school students," was defeated in the Senate on a 22-25 vote on
February 24, 2025.
END QUOTE:
The ID perps did not show up again to run the bait and switch. If the
Bill had passed it would have been as bad as the passage of the first
West Virginia legislation naming ID as what the creationists wanted
taught in their public schools.
The ID perps used to pay someone to track the creationist rube attempts
to teach ID in the public schools, but I think that they did not refill
the position after the bait and switch on Utah in 2017. It had been 4
years since that position had been needed after the dual bait and switch
on Louisiana and Texas in 2013 that resulted in the ID perps removing
the claim that they had a scientific theory of ID to teach in the public
schools from their education policy. The ID perps likely didn't want to
waste the money on refilling the position.
I do not know what is getting the rubes to try to teach the junk again,
but they apparently need to refill that position in order to insure that
the bait and switch goes down before any legislation is passed. They
got lucky and got a second chance with West Virginia, and the North
Dakota case seems to have failed on it's own without ID perp interference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District
QUOTE:
This story made the York newspapers, and Buckingham was telephoned by
Discovery Institute staff attorney Seth Cooper, whose tasks included
"communicating with legislators, school board members, teachers, parents
and students" to "address the topic of ID in a scientifically and
educationally responsible way" in public schools. He later stated that
he made the call to "steer the Dover Board away from trying to include
intelligent design in the classroom or from trying to insert creationism
into its cirriculum [sic]"
END QUOTE:
Seth Cooper screwed up in Dover. He had the job of running the bait and
switch, but it had likely become routine after having to run the bait
and switch 100% of the time since Ohio in March 2002. Cooper failed to
follow up to make sure that the rubes understood that the bait and
switch had gone down. He likely did not realize that the Dover
creationists were too ignorant, stupid and dishonest to understand what
the situation with the ID scam had been for the previous 3 years. This
resulted in the first failure of the bait and switch, and the Dover
rubes trying to teach the bogus junk in spite of what the Discovery
Institute wanted them to do.
The ID perps were caught off guard in West Virginia and if the Governor
had signed the legislation with ID named, the ID scam would have likely
had another day in federal court. It looks like they were also caught
off guard in North Dakota, but got lucky both times.
For some weird reason it looks like the ID perps need to refill the
position that was responsible for implementing the bait and switch.
Relying on Luskin to do it after the fact is likely a losing
proposition. The ID perps have never retracted any of their teach ID
scam propaganda (Luskin is a coauthor of the post Dover teach ID scam
propaganda) but they haven't been pushing it for years. The West
Virginia creationist rubes may have woken up other dishonest
creationists willing to teach the junk.
Before Texas and Louisiana in 2013 the ID perps had to be very efficient
in running the bait and switch on the rubes even after ID was exposed to
be a creationist scam in Dover in 2005. Their biggest bait and switch
effort likely occurred in Florida back in 2009 when 9 county school
boards and the state legislators wanted to teach ID in their public
schools. Luskin led a team of ID perps sent to Florida to run the bait
and switch on all the school boards and the state legislature. Florida
dropped the issue instead of bending over for the switch scam, but a
state legislator had to have the bait and switch run on him again when
he tried to reintroduce the teach ID scam legislation the next session.
That is the type of creationist rubes that they have falling for the
teach ID scam. Even after the West Virginia legislator had the bait and
switch run on her, and she removed mentioning ID from the act, she
continued to claim that ID was going to be taught in the public schools
after the Governor signed the switch scam legislation. Too stupid to
breath, is an apt description of ID scam supporters.
Ron Okimoto