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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Brian G. Lucas" <bagel99@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: PC/IX, not, Why VAX Was the Ultimate CISC and Not RISC Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 17:51:11 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vq801d$22jsc$1@dont-email.me> References: <vpufbv$4qc5$1@dont-email.me> <vq4jrl$1cguk$1@dont-email.me> <vq5nc0$lob$1@gal.iecc.com> <vq7alc$1ukpf$1@dont-email.me> <vq7pmb$1jkc$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 23:49:18 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="97a6badffad19edb6a9de182c0370cde"; logging-data="2183052"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19iWqSkRr2T/sy2keKMaQrA" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:+Lv0sXmBu+DnY8PvOSjXur06fZE= In-Reply-To: <vq7pmb$1jkc$1@gal.iecc.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2300 On 3/4/25 4:00 PM, John Levine wrote: > According to Brian G. Lucas <bagel99@gmail.com>: >>> Nobody knew what the market for PC/IX was supposed to be beyond some >>> handwaving "if 5% if PC users buy it we'll be rich." PC/IX could do >>> anything a PDP-11 running Unix could do, give or take peripherals, >>> but the PC market was very different from the PDP-11 market and by >>> that time the PDP-11 was rather long in the tooth. >>> >> Maybe everyting except for lack of memory protection. >> IBM sold it as a single user system. > > The lack of memory protection turned out not to matter very much. Didn't we once > get a bug report for something that only failed after the system had been up > continuously for a year? > I don't remember that one. > It didn't help that PC/IX and Unix in general had very few applications for > non-technical users. There was document processing with nroff and troff, with > our INed screen editor, but what else? > Which is kinda ironic since Unix was originally funded to be used by "secretaries" in the Bell Labs patent department. But you are correct, Unix was mostly used by programmers.