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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 18:34:37 -0600
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On 3/4/2025 5:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/4/25 11:11 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/4/2025 9:08 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 04.mrt.2025 om 15:17 schreef olcott:
>>>> On 3/4/2025 3:14 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 04.mrt.2025 om 04:07 schreef olcott:
>>>>>> int DD()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DD()
>>>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>>>> I wonder why Olcott keeps repeating that HHH fails to reach the 
>>>>> 'ret' instruction, where the direct execution or world-class 
>>>>> simulators have no problem to reach the 'ret' instruction of 
>>>>> exactly the same finite string as input.
>>>>
>>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>>>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>>>> own "ret" instruction.
>>>>
>>> And that is exactly what Olcott does not show.
>>
>> Likewise I never attempt to show exactly how
>> all squares are round.
>>
>>> So, my claim remains: HHH fails to reach the 'ret' instruction, where 
>>> the direct execution and some world-class simulators have no problem 
>>> to reach it.
>>
>> DD calls its own emulator when emulated by HHH.
>> DD DOES NOT call its own emulator when emulated by HHH1.
>> DD DOES NOT call its own emulator when directly executed.
> 
> Which just show your stupidity, as DD doesn't HAVE its own emulator, and 
> CAN'T know who or if it is being emulated.
> 

It is not my stupidity it is your dishonestly using
the straw-man deception to change the subject away from:

DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.


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