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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 22:53:50 -0600
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On 3/4/2025 10:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/4/25 7:42 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/4/2025 5:45 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 3/4/25 9:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 3/4/2025 6:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 3/3/25 10:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> int DD()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DD()
>>>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>>>
>>>> *Proves that the input to HHH(DD) can be rejected as non-halting*
>>>
>>> No, it proves that the HHH that rejects the input, didn't do a 
>>> correct simulation, and thus was looking at the wrong input, because 
>>> you don't understand what a program is.
>>>
>>> DD only is non-halting if *THE* HHH (and there is only one at any 
>>> time) never aborts. SInce HHH musts abort its emulation to "reject" 
>>> the input, it proves it didn't do the needed correct emulation, and 
>>> you are shown to be just a blantant liar.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And the HHH that correctly emulated DD, can't be a decider and answer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also. "the HHH", defined in your Halt7.c doesn't do that, 
>>>>
>>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>>>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>>>> own "ret" instruction.
>>>>
>>>> Failing to provide the above proves that you are clueless
>>>> about this code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Nope, I have shown why your logic is wrong, 
>>
>> If that was true you could show this with
>> something besides rhetoric and double-talk.
>>
> 
> That you call all I say as just rhetoric just shows how stupid you are.
> 

DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach
its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
AND YOU CAN'T SHOW OTHERWISE

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