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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!earthli!nntp.terraraq.uk!news1.firedrake.org!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Observe_the_trend=2E_It=E2=80=99s_happening=2E_Give?= =?UTF-8?Q?_it_time=2E?= Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 01:24:25 -0500 Organization: Eek Lines: 56 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vq8qmp$29n70$4@dont-email.me> References: <vq8k3n$29ai1$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: jtem01@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="22867"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:3ft/mhcK47s+tsxGsEZ9C8+PgXA= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 89E3D22978C; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 01:24:39 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C8AD229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 01:24:36 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 5256OShN2464784 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 07:24:30 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62C516062A for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 06:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/62C516062A; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 459A3DC01CA; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 07:24:26 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 07:24:26 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19S713xVkOfvSOdDbrGdBwH+MFeofLH+Kw= In-Reply-To: <vq8k3n$29ai1$1@dont-email.me> DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 5133 MarkE wrote: > Is there a limit to capability of natural selection to refine, adapt and > create the “appearance of design”? Yes: the mechanism itself of > “differential reproductive success” has intrinsic limitations, whatever > it may be able to achieve, and this is further constrained by finite > time and population sizes. I think you're right but for all the wrong reasons. Go back to Hitler's plan for eastern Europe or the law regarding slaves in the antebellum south and we see the self imposed elite, as a matter of policy and law, want ignorant masses. I.D. is a idiotic pseudo science and that makes it very attractive... One huge problem though is history. See, what that massive fraud we call Darwin said "Evolution," which he eventually did, he didn't mean evolution. He didn't "Believe in" evolution any more than you do In fact, he believed in the exact same nonsense that Stalin and the communist world believed in when they outlawed evolution! The result was famine. You can't advance agriculture rejecting "western, capitalist, imperialist" evolution & embracing woo because, yes, evolution is real. DNA exists. Changes in that DNA are driven by 1) genetic capacity and 2) selective pressures. So although science is virtually gone in all cases which do not immediately offer an economic or national security advantage, evolution has a use. You need to get into climate "Science." That shit is so fake and has so many holes that even the dizzy-eyed believers are starting to form doubts. A little "God did it!" would go a long ways towards plugging the holes in that one, and there's virtually unlimited funding for your kind of "Research." Human Origins, paleo anthropology which is to anthropology what biblical archaeology is to archaeology, is a gold mine! You can make up anything, literally *Anything* and they'll pay you for it. Don't believe me? Search this group for some of the nonsense about Naledi... But "Evolution" as a topic is *Way* too large and, like I said, it is monetarily useful, enough so as to NOT Greta it anytime soon. But you do have viable and lucrative alternative desperately in need of a little "God did it!" Best of all? The trolls here will love you for it. They'll be your biggest fans... "Hey! Actual Thience! We like Thience! My TV told me we do!" -- https://jtem.tumblr.com/tagged/The%20Book%20of%20JTEM/page/5