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On 3/5/2025 9:27 AM, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
> On 05/03/2025 13:47, Newyana2 wrote:
>> But it's changing very quickly. Apple invented
>> computer cellphones in 2008.
> 
> 
> Could somebody clarify the exact meaning of "But it's changing very 
> quickly. Apple invented computer cellphones in 2008"� ?

   Why did you snip the rest of my description of rapid change?
Today most people -- as evidenced in this group -- are living
their lives from a kind of personal control booth, which is their
cellphone. Computer phones have only existed for about 17 years.
For much of that time they were limited in both their functionality
and their ubiquity. Apps were what made them especially useful,
not phone calls.

   So, how long have cellphones been assumed as the common
exchange of social and business interaction? In my experience it's
only been maybe 5 years since people started asking to text me,
and getting annoyed when I told them I don't text. 2FA is newer
still. We've now reached a point where most people assume that
all other people can be reached anytime by text and are conducting
their lives via DoorDash, Uber, texting, Venmo, and so on. The
youngest adults have grown up with virtually no experience
of solitude, constantly engaged in a social circle.

   That's what I mean by changing very quickly. As a babyboomer
who uses a cellphone mainly as a portable phonebooth, the lifestyle
of GenZ is almost unrecognizable to me. Yet it wasn't even possible
a few years ago.

   Uber, DoorDash, Venmo.... Those are all fairly new. The landscape
of social and business interaction is changing quickly. Without using
a cellphone, I can't use any of those services. It's a kind of parallel
world that's gradually becoming the only option. That's what we've
been talking about. Carlos is saying that already it's nearly impossible
for him to conduct his basic life without a computer cellphone. For me
in the US it's not quite so extreme. Aside from a few cellphone addicts
who want to text me, I have no use for Venmo or Uber. I know
how to read maps... So there's not much that I'm actually missing in
practice by not living via cellphone. But most young people now
would be lost. They'd likely have a mental breakdown simply at being
disconnected from their social hive, like Star Trek's Borg.