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On 05/03/2025 21:01, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 3/5/2025 1:23 PM, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
>> On 05/03/2025 17:37, Newyana2 wrote:
>>> On 3/5/2025 12:21 PM, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I "snipped out" the rest of your description of rapid change 
>>>> (whatever that is) in the hope that somebody might clarify the claim 
>>>> that "Apple invented computer cellphones in 2008"
>>>>
>>>
>>>    Is that wrong? I just looked it up. It was actually 2007.
>>> Was there another computer cellphone before that? I'm
>>> not aware of any. There were cellphones that could make
>>> phone calls. But there were not apps, browsers, and so on,
>>> as far as I know. I welcome correction if I'm mistaken.
>>>
>>>    In other words, people could make phone calls on wireless
>>> phones back in the 80s. But the cellphone lifestyle of banking,
>>> shopping, getting directions, texting, etc is fairly recent.
>>> (Remember that there's also the lag between when iPhone
>>> came out and when computer cellphones became ubiquitous.)
>>>
>>
>> That assumes that the only definition of a computer cellphone is your 
>> definition.
>>
>> I believe that web browsing and email applications were available on 
>> some handsets using GPRS / WAP - before wifi standards were 
>> established (and before CSS got sorted out)
>>
>> Lots of old Nokia handsets had gaming applications and other utilities 
>> like alarm clock / calendar /calculator etc
>>
>> "texting, etc" is NOT fairly recent - I think it came in with release 
>> 2 of GSM in the early 90s.
>>
>> NTT DoCoMo introduced iMode in Japan some time in the late 90s - which 
>> provided a browsing service and some multi user games, along with text 
>> chatting and possibly some sort of press to talk facility.
>>
>> i-Mode users also have access to other various services such as: 
>> sports results, weather forecasts, games, financial services, and 
>> ticket booking.
>>
>> The Blackberry Messenger platform provided a global text service based 
>> on the PIN of the individual handset - regardless of location or 
>> network operator
>>
>> Basically, the Apple / Android "axis of evil" may not be the only gig 
>> in town - and I dont think it was the first
>>
>       You're missing the whole point. Read the thread.


And you are avoiding the question