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On 05/03/2025 22:00, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 3/5/2025 1:03 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Newyana2 wrote:
> 
>> calling them "computer cellphones" just sounds odd.
>>
> 
>     Not as silly as "smartphone". :)
> It's basically a computer that can make phone calls.
> Mainly they're used for apps and online operations. Mine
> has Firefox installed.
> 
>> Before smartphones, there were e.g. the Nokia 9000 series 
>> "communicators" which had email and web-browsing in mid '90s.
>>
> 
>    I'm sure there were all sorts of niche items. But that's not
> the context here. The point was that only in recent years
> have most people been using texting and apps on computer
> phones, to such an extent that everyone is assumed to
> have one handy at all times. That's what we've been talking
> about -- how hard it is to not use a cellphone. Some Brits and
> Spanish people are claiming they can't live at all in the modern
> worls without a cellphone. I don't believe that's true, but I
> do know that more and more things require a cellphone.

yes you can live without a Cellphone, but you can also live without 
electricity, mains water, a car etc. etc. etc. Is it an enjoyable, 
rewarding experience, probably not. Will it cost me financially, 
probably. Is it sensible? About as sensible as avoiding blood 
transfusions and modern medicines.

Dave