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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Generate random passwords with your mouse ... :-) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 19:26:47 +0000 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vqcstn$33rjg$2@dont-email.me> References: <vqaaim$1q8rg$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vqafqv$2jg8b$2@dont-email.me> <vqbnmd$21e9n$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vqbpl5$2tqjk$1@dont-email.me> <vqc784$2281i$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vqc9d5$30gab$1@dont-email.me> <vqcaek$22dlp$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vqcdjq$30tov$2@dont-email.me> <87o6yei2gg.fsf@pc-731.ybtra.de> <vqcn63$231ur$1@paganini.bofh.team> <87v7sm803e.fsf@pc-731.ybtra.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2025 20:26:47 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a12ade0f7e5b6fab51cfc5e27fedd0be"; logging-data="3272304"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/vUEBz4AUQ44gUyjLMiK7B0XxgeOXlA4E66yCMux+9IA==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:z84uTrYlET4PWSG5DbwiwDCawgM= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <87v7sm803e.fsf@pc-731.ybtra.de> Bytes: 2301 On 06/03/2025 18:52, Marcel Logen wrote: > Stefan Claas in sci.crypt: > >> Sure, it only needs a slight change in the C code, but I do not want >> to have the shasum of a password and prefer the shasum of the entropy, >> so that the shasum can be used for a password as well! :-) > > One question I ask myself: > > Aren't you losing entropy when you use the modulo operation > in the "bytes_to_chars" function? I wonder. > > Marcel Yes. He'd do better restricting his character set to 64 elements, and then using his entropy 6 bits at a time without any need for the mod. Practical upshot: slightly longer password at no extra cost other than slightly awkward programming as you dance around the bits. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within