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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Which code style do you prefer the most? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 15:37:12 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 62 Message-ID: <vqf0ao$3j0v5$1@dont-email.me> References: <vpkmq0$21php$1@dont-email.me> <vq785i$1u7v7$1@dont-email.me> <20250304101022.154@kylheku.com> <vq7shq$226p3$1@dont-email.me> <vq7u5u$21gol$2@dont-email.me> <20250305152224.ea400cb92445c78f6a4ba523@g{oogle}mail.com> <vq9kf0$2efj9$1@dont-email.me> <vq9mkb$2erto$1@dont-email.me> <20250305183051.3cca469a0fd757595152b261@g{oogle}mail.com> <vq9uqh$2g9q3$1@dont-email.me> <vqa0gr$2gmc7$1@dont-email.me> <vqa1rq$2gr5h$1@dont-email.me> <Ea0yP.6763$SVG3.6427@fx42.iad> <vqbptn$2triu$1@dont-email.me> <WBiyP.170259$BrX.10828@fx12.iad> <vqcnd0$32tgb$1@dont-email.me> <vqco4o$32t9o$1@dont-email.me> <20250306130748.768@kylheku.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2025 15:37:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e01dbbfbc0d9d1a3db83453344e94ef3"; logging-data="3769317"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+cvLIsiAXWMltVIsB3p+Y/yYwo/okJ1mE=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:5P4EEMQ3eqADyuY8SfXFz87lhEo= In-Reply-To: <20250306130748.768@kylheku.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 4130 On 06/03/2025 22:14, Kaz Kylheku wrote: > On 2025-03-06, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote: >> At school we used a, b, c... for trigonometry and p, q, r for >> point co-ordinates, so I suppose I assumed that i, j, k... for >> matrices was intended to exploit a nice juicy part of the >> alphabet that wasn't being used for anything else... >> >> ...and then along came imaginary numbers. > > The imaginary i happily coexists with the indexing i. Yes. > > Mathematicians come in two varieties: those who are oblivious > to ambiguity and those who relish it. This i situation goes > unnoticed by the former, and pleases the latter. > Mathematicians come in two varieties - those that can count, and those that can't count. In my mathematics, I neither relish ambiguity nor am I oblivious to it - and I think most mathematicians are like that. It is almost always obvious from context whether "i" refers to the imaginary number constant, or a counter index. In situations where both might be used (such as the summation for a Fourier series), you simply use a different letter for the index - j, k, and n are typical. > Electrical engineers, on the other hand, came along bearing > current, and immediately saw the i clash, renaming the > imaginary i to j. > I've done plenty of electronics design, though I have no formal education in electrical engineering. But I think it is quite common to use imaginary "i" rather than "j" - it's usually obvious from the context when you are talking about a current. It's rare that you only have one current of interest in a system, so you already have i1, i2, i_in, i_out, or whatever. There is rarely a clash. > However, electrical engineers don't count through any abstract spaces, > so they don't care about i (current) clashing with i (indexing). > Of course electrical engineers count loops. > They count things like resistors (R1, R2, ...), capacitors (C1, C2, ...) > integrated circuits (U1, U2, ...), component pins, and so on. > And they loop through these things - consider multi-stage filters, transmission line models, etc. > An EE would never say impractical, goofy things like, "For i from 1 > through n (that being the number of capacitors n in my circuit), such > and such a facts holds about Ci ..." > They could quite happily talk about the sum of load capacitors C_i on a bus.