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On 3/7/2025 7:12 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
> On 3/6/2025 1:17 PM, AJL wrote:
>> On 3/6/2025 9:09 AM, Newyana2 wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone who assumes they're safe conducting their life online is
>>> simply an ostrich who doesn't want to know the facts. In their
>>> defense, the facts are well hidden. But it's still ostrich
>>> mentality, driven by laziness.
>>
>> Perhaps the ostrich is anyone who thinks their life is not online
>> these days.
>>
>
> My life is not online. Of course there's data online.

And that would be data about your life.

> What I meant was living through a cellphone and all that entails.

Same as living through a home computer only more convenient for me and
many folks. YMMV.

>> Go to the doctor? Your very personal info is online and available
>> to the office staff, the computer service techs, the billing
>> company, the insurance company, and of course hackers. Pay taxes?
>> All online and available to many (honest?) government employees.
>> Own a home? Here (AZ US) hackers are selling them without the
>> owners knowledge using online government title info. Retired? My
>> info is online for both my state and fed retirement accounts both
>> of which are direct deposited into my online bank account. Likewise
>> most of my investments. I could fill a couple of more paragraphs
>> about folks living online these days but I think even an ostrich
>> would get my point.

> Which is what? That your laziness

One can always tell when the opponent has no case. He resorts to insults.

> is justified because the world has already gone to hell?

My personal world is actually in pretty good shape right now. No
complaints. I'm not sure what both our lives being online have to
do with the world at large though...

> That's a good example of ostrich logic. Non-ostrich means simply
> relating to your life rather than looking for excuses not to. It's
> not a black/white issue. The irony is that ostriches always put a lot
> of effort into defending their ignorance:

More insults, no facts.

> "My doctor already knows my phone number, and my SS payment is
> auto-deposited, so why should I care that Google tracks me everywhere
> I go?"

Good point. With 2.5 billion Google accounts what are the chances a
Google PERSON chooses to track you? However if you're worried about a
Google computer tracking you then my point was you should be worried
about all those other computers that are tracking you as well. Or better
yet not being worried and just enjoy the convenience our online world 
brings us...

>> And of course if you think keeping your sensitive stuff only on
>> your home computers keeps you safe then you should talk to my
>> neighbor who lost all his electronics in a burglary...

> You missed the whole point. But I know that you're in a rush to go
> buy something you don't need so that you can get some cash back on
> your credit card... And I know that you're proud of such clever
> consumerism. So I won't bore you with clarifications. :)

Sorry, the smiley doesn't negate the insulting flavor of your words. Try
emotion free facts on your next reply. How is your life not online? For
example I bet you go to a doctor that keeps your most personal info
online. And I bet it's more likely to be seen by PEOPLE than any of my
Google stuff...  8-O