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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
 rebuttals ---PSR---
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2025 20:21:40 -0600
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On 3/7/2025 8:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/7/25 8:49 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/7/2025 10:25 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 07.mrt.2025 om 16:17 schreef olcott:
>>>> On 3/7/2025 2:59 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 06.mrt.2025 om 21:13 schreef olcott:
>>>>>> On 3/6/2025 3:13 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 06.mrt.2025 om 04:53 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 3/5/2025 9:31 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/2025 10:17 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/5/2025 7:10 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In other words, you know that what you're working on has 
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with the halting problem, but you don't care.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In other words I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY BULLSHIT DEFLECTION.
>>>>>>>>>> You have proven that you know these things pretty well SO QUIT 
>>>>>>>>>> THE SHIT!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You want people to accept that HHH(DD) does in fact report that 
>>>>>>>>> changing the code of HHH to an unconditional simulator and 
>>>>>>>>> running HHH(DD) will not halt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly
>>>>>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, we agree that HHH fails to reach the 'ret' instruction, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Despicably dishonest attempt at the straw-man deception.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No rebuttal. So, we agree that HHH fails to reach the 'ret' 
>>>>> instruction. 
>>>>
>>>> Not at all. Trying to get away with changing the subject
>>>> WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
>>>>
>>> If you do not agree that HHH fails to reach the 'ret' instruction 
>>> (that world-class simulators do reach, just as the direct execution 
>>> does), show how it reaches the 'ret' instruction.
>>
>> *set X*
>> When-so-ever any input to any simulating termination
>> analyzer calls the simulator that is simulating itself
>>
>> *result of set X*
>> this input cannot possibly reach its own final state
>> and terminate normally because it remains stuck in
>> recursive emulation.
> 
> But the failure of the PARTIAL emulatipon done by the termination 
> analyzer doesn't show that the input is non-haltiong
> 

That is stupidly wrong and you know it.


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