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On 3/8/2025 10:14 AM, Dave Smith wrote:

> I am not a big fan of the taxing and tipping culture and would prefer 
> that tax and service be included in the menu price. I do tip but I stick 
> to the old standard of 15% for good service and I am fed with the 
> pressure for a minimum 20% just for showing up.
> 
> 
Won't work.  Tipping in restaurants is ingrained and overall, works.

Canada may be different,but in the US, states determine minimum wage for 
service workers if they want more than the federal mandate of $2.13.  In 
Florida is in the $10,98 vs $14 for regular minimum.

The business will have to pay more so prices will go up to cover it. 
People will complain, even if a tip is not needed and some sales will be 
lost.

Let's say they start to pay the $14 wage.  Many servers will quit.

Take a family restaurant type, Applbee's, or Chili's. What do you think 
is a fair and decent wage for the server?

Oh, under present setup, servers often have to share a portion of the 
tip with others, like food runners.

OK, as manager, what do you think your servers should earn?