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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: lun - Lucky Number Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 13:11:08 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vqibpd$ahu0$2@dont-email.me> References: <vqg3sj$3q7rg$1@stefan.eternal-september.org> <vqi2io$8r9n$1@dont-email.me> <vqi3p7$8rlr$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 22:11:09 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e72e54bf1123d47ca4084a40faedb0d1"; logging-data="346048"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ZvN61Fa0B/arR6xGOcDNn07uRG1b1BjA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JN5aLtyAeTkECGBprbf9ecJ0FoM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqi3p7$8rlr$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2950 On 3/8/2025 10:54 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 08/03/2025 18:34, Rich wrote: >> Stefan Claas <fgrsna.pynnf@vagrearg.eh> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> from the previous discussion with Richard I came up with a new idea to >>> create a random number. I call the Go program lun = Lucky Number. >> >> How /random/ do you want this number to be? >> >>> Here is a sample run with 3 seconds set. You can also use1 or many >>> more seconds. >>> >>> $ lun 3 >>> >>> Started: 2025-03-08 01:29:57 >>> >>> 2287128966796887 1741393797 2287130708190684 >>> 2443764953918824 1741393798 2443766695312622 >>> 8241182675020522 1741393799 8241184416414321 >>> >>> Ended: 2025-03-08 01:29:59 >>> Time elapsed: 00:00:03 >>> Multiplying: 2287130708190684 * 8241184416414321 >>> Your lucky number is: 18848665950643714819328816385564 >>> SHA256: 28fd1445771c772f403eb4092b722640a529b5c84c3ee50bc6d631454e83daed >>> >>> The first column is a random number >> >> So, you already have a *random number*. Why do any more? >> >>> , the second the local Unix-Epoch-Time >> >> Very *not* random. >> >>> and the third shows the addition of column1 and column2. >> >> Provided the random number was "good enough randomness" this has no >> benefit. >> >>> The lucky number was generated by multiplying the first and last >>> value of the right column. >> >> The product R1 * R2 is little different, randomness wise, from the >> product R1 * (R2 + Predictable_Offset). If you can generate random >> numbers, what is the value in computing R1 * (R2 + Predictable_Offset)? >> >>> Hope you like the idea! >> >> I fail to see any point to it. >> >> If you can generate a random number, then you already have a random >> number. You can stop here and enjoy using your random number. > > https://xkcd.com/221/ > ROFL!!! thanks for that.