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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 16:42:13 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vqih45$bcso$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq5qqc$1j128$2@dont-email.me> <vq866t$23nt0$1@dont-email.me> <2002d599ebdfb7cd5a023881ab2faca9801b219d@i2pn2.org> <vq8l3d$29b9l$1@dont-email.me> <4426787ad065bfd0939e10b937f3b8b2798d0578@i2pn2.org> <vq8mam$29b9l$5@dont-email.me> <920b573567d204a5c792425b09097d79ee098fa5@i2pn2.org> <vq9lvn$2ei4j$3@dont-email.me> <4453bc0c1141c540852ea2223a7fedefc93f564c@i2pn2.org> <vqadoh$2ivg7$2@dont-email.me> <vqae74$2ivcn$1@dont-email.me> <vqag6q$2jief$1@dont-email.me> <vqagb7$2ivcn$3@dont-email.me> <vqakhi$2jief$3@dont-email.me> <vqalvr$2ivcn$5@dont-email.me> <vqaq2s$2lgq7$2@dont-email.me> <vqasm4$2lue4$1@dont-email.me> <vqb43k$2mueq$1@dont-email.me> <vqb4ub$2lue4$3@dont-email.me> <vqb683$2mueq$2@dont-email.me> <vqbp05$2td95$1@dont-email.me> <vqcvlu$34c3r$3@dont-email.me> <vqecht$3epcf$1@dont-email.me> <vqf2lh$3j68u$5@dont-email.me> <vqf6mm$3j47v$4@dont-email.me> <vqg7ng$3qol2$3@dont-email.me> <vqh07g$26ac$1@dont-email.me> <vqhio1$5r7r$1@dont-email.me> <vqhm1s$6fo8$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 23:42:14 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ffa3f7c8a9c06536bf515dd54724b6f7"; logging-data="373656"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/yEIx0W/KDCOl6WqXw3VvH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vu0JpDsQDW8N5FehL0wLLEhEGoU= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250308-4, 3/8/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vqhm1s$6fo8$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3285 On 3/8/2025 9:00 AM, dbush wrote: > On 3/8/2025 9:03 AM, olcott wrote: >> >> Apparently you don't understand that inputs to a >> simulating termination analyzer specifying infinite >> recursion or recursive emulation cannot possibly >> reach their own final state and terminate normally. > > Apparently you don't understand that inputs to a termination analyzer, > simulating or otherwise, are specified by the specification that is the > halting function: > > (<X>,Y) maps to 1 if and only if X(Y) halts when executed directly > (<X>,Y) maps to 0 if and only if X(Y) does not halt when executed > > And HHH(DD)==0 fails to meet the above specification *THIS IS A SEMANTIC TAUTOLOGY THUS IMPOSSIBLY FALSE* DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation. It is ridiculously stupid to believe that HHH must report on behavior other than the above behavior. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer