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From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid
 rebuttals ---PSR---
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:32:02 -0500
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On 3/8/2025 11:25 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 3/8/2025 10:16 PM, dbush wrote:
>> On 3/8/2025 11:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 3/8/2025 9:59 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>> On 3/8/2025 10:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 3/8/2025 9:49 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/8/2025 10:43 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/8/2025 9:35 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your copy-paste answer to multiple threads indicates you have no 
>>>>>>>> real rebuttal for what others have said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   <copy-paste response>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, you have no rebuttal. 
>>>>>
>>>>> *This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed*
>>>>>
>>>>> *UNTIL YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THIS YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND*
>>>>> *THE NEXT STEP THAT ADDRESSES ALL OF THE OTHER ISSUES*
>>>>>
>>>>> <copy-paste response>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't matter, as you've already accepted that your HHH isn't a 
>>>> solution to the halting problem 
>>>
>>> *I never said that*
>>
>> Yes you did, by making no attempt to explain otherwise:
>>
> 
> *This is all you get from me until this point is fully addressed*
> Replacing the code of HHH with an unconditional simulator and 
> subsequently running HHH(DD) cannot possibly reach
> its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally
> because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation.
> 


In other words, HHH fails to meet the requirement to be classified as a 
solution to the halting problem, as you have already admitted.