Article <vqk501$o7up$1@dont-email.me>

Deutsch English Français Italiano
<vqk501$o7up$1@dont-email.me>

View for Bookmarking (what is this?)
Look up another Usenet article
Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail
From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: 4 more dairy herds in California infected with H5N1.
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 08:27:30 -0500
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 80
Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org
Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org
Message-ID: <vqk501$o7up$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vqg798$3qlu8$1@dont-email.me> <vqi73r$9q53$1@dont-email.me>
Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89";
	logging-data="84467"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org
Cancel-Lock: sha1:nLG1xDGmGWnhIKKKWFutNMPFNxw=
In-Reply-To: <vqi73r$9q53$1@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: en-US
Bytes: 7242

On 3/8/2025 1:51 PM, RonO wrote:
> On 3/7/2025 7:42 PM, RonO wrote:
>> https://ktla.com/news/california/h5n1-bird-flu-virus-detected-at-4- 
>> southern-california-dairy-farms/
>>
>> The USDA has not confirmed the infections and they do not say if it is 
>> B3.13 or D1.1.  All the herds in California should have been tested 
>> over a month ago.  The recent infections are likely due to the denial 
>> of worker infections and not restricting dairy worker movements off of 
>> infected farms to uninfected farms.  California understood that a lot 
>> of Dairy workers were being infected, but they refused to start 
>> testing dairy workers after their initial testing found more infected 
>> dairy workers than any other state.  They restricted cattle movements, 
>> but refused to restrict dairy worker movements.  The result has been 
>> that nearly all of their dairies have been infected and after 
>> detecting all the infected herds they are still having new infections 
>> because they do not have sufficient quarantine rules in place.  They 
>> also lost over 40% of their commercial layer flocks because they did 
>> not prevent dairy workers from going to poultry farms.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
> 
> https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/AHFSS/Animal_Health/HPAI.html
> 
> Around half of California's infected dairies have fully recovered (373 
> out of 749).  There are around 900 herds in California, and new herd 
> infections are still being allowed to happen even after all the herds 
> have started to be routinely tested over a month ago.
> 
> Ron Okimoto
> 
https://www.independent.com/2025/03/08/california-poultry-and-dairy-farms-see-drop-in-bird-flu-infections-state-officials-report/

There was a hearing in California about the Dairy influenza epidemic, 
and it is pretty damning of the USDA and CDC's and Californias response 
to the infection.  There are claims that sick workers (could have been 
infected by the dairy virus) were forced to work with the animals, and 
that workers were forced to work with sick animals without protective 
equipment.  The USDA and CDC only recommend that protective equipment be 
used by dairy workers.  They only recommend that dairy workers not work 
on other farms if they work on an infected farm.  The voluntary policies 
have never worked since the start of the infection, and yet nothing ever 
changed.  California claimed that they were going to start testing dairy 
workers weeks before the CDC decided to make the same claim, but neither 
California nor the CDC followed through with their claims that they were 
going to test all the dairy workers at infected farms.  Infected dairy 
workers went undetected, and were allowed to go to poultry farms and 
other dairies.  The result is that nearly over 749 of the 900 dairies in 
California have been infected and over 40% of their commercial layer 
flocks have been depopulated along with a bunch of other poultry farms.

QUOTE:
After Edward Flores of UC Merced described the range of employer 
responses to dairy worker illnesses, Santa Barbara’s State Senator 
Monique Limón, who sits on the Senate Health Committee, remarked that it 
didn’t seem right to have people who were ill taking care of animals. 
Flores directs the school’s Community and Labor Center, which 
interviewed dairy workers in Fresno, Tulare, Kings, and Merced counties. 
They reported that while some employers supported their workers’ 
well-being, others ridiculed the need for protective gear or made 
employees fearful of losing their jobs if they were ill. Nonetheless, 
dairy workers cared for sick animals, gave them injections, milked sick 
cows to avoid mastitis — directly exposing themselves to H5N1, which is 
present in the animals’ mammary glands and milk.
END QUOTE:

What is also troubling is that they claim only 144 dairies remain 
quarantined even though they are claiming only 373 out of 749 dairies 
are free of infection.  This means that they drop quarantine before the 
virus has completely cleared infected dairies.  This seems to be 
tragically stupid because once they drop quarantine cattle movements are 
no longer restricted (dairy worker movements were never restricted).

It seems like all the other known infected states California did what 
they should not have done and failed to do what should have been done. 
At least they tried to find all their infected dairies.  Only Colorado 
did that, and likely a lot of infected states never reported the infection.

Ron Okimoto