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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals ---PSR--- Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:26:57 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: <vqk8fg$ooc8$5@dont-email.me> References: <vq5qqc$1j128$2@dont-email.me> <vqecht$3epcf$1@dont-email.me> <vqf2lh$3j68u$5@dont-email.me> <vqf6mm$3j47v$4@dont-email.me> <vqg7ng$3qol2$3@dont-email.me> <vqh07g$26ac$1@dont-email.me> <vqhio1$5r7r$1@dont-email.me> <vqhm1s$6fo8$2@dont-email.me> <vqih45$bcso$1@dont-email.me> <vqii32$bcd0$3@dont-email.me> <vqijht$bcso$3@dont-email.me> <vqik16$bcd0$5@dont-email.me> <vqine6$cton$1@dont-email.me> <vqiovv$d4j1$2@dont-email.me> <vqiqk0$dc6s$2@dont-email.me> <vqirn6$dje3$1@dont-email.me> <vqiug9$duqq$1@dont-email.me> <vqiur3$dje3$3@dont-email.me> <vqj2ab$dje3$8@dont-email.me> <vqj2pn$ef0h$7@dont-email.me> <vqj342$dje3$10@dont-email.me> <vqj3bc$ef0h$9@dont-email.me> <vqj3n1$dje3$12@dont-email.me> <vqj460$il72$1@dont-email.me> <vqj4mf$ikc5$1@dont-email.me> <vqj57r$ipa4$1@dont-email.me> <vqj5k2$dje3$13@dont-email.me> <vqj6e6$j0t2$1@dont-email.me> <vqk68e$ooc8$1@dont-email.me> <vqk70n$o4oh$5@dont-email.me> <vqk7ee$ooc8$3@dont-email.me> <vqk8a6$o4oh$7@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 15:26:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a7cd4af0ac1547313f65cbaef3f65f1f"; logging-data="811400"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QDJNcJvh2J2KF9CaKccAH" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:i+/teaLOHFL7tbI5yMYaljqS1gM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqk8a6$o4oh$7@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3828 On 3/9/2025 10:24 AM, olcott wrote: > On 3/9/2025 9:09 AM, dbush wrote: >> On 3/9/2025 10:01 AM, olcott wrote: >>> On 3/9/2025 8:49 AM, dbush wrote: >>>> On 3/8/2025 11:45 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Erasing and replacing my words with your words >>>>> is a real scumbag move. >>>> >>>> Not when you gave your official approval to do so after admitting >>>> for the record that they mean the same thing: >>>> >>> >>> (1) Replacing my quoted words with your words (as if I said >>> your words) is despicably dishonest. >> >> Not when you gave your official approval to do so, as posted >> previously that you dishonestly trimmed. >> >>> >>> (2) They do not mean that same thing you removed most >>> of the essence of my proof. >>> >> >> If they didn't mean the same thing you would have explained how. I >> gave you multiple opportunities to do so and you refused. You were >> warned that failing to explain would be taken as your admission that >> they were the same and you still didn't explain, therefore your >> admission that they are the same was entered into the record. >> >> I'm feeling generous, so I'll give you an opportunity to explain the >> difference now. If you choose not to take that up, your on-the-record >> admission stands. >> > > *When we assume that HHH emulates N steps of DD then* > DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach > its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally > because DD calls HHH(DD) in recursive emulation. > > Whether or not the correct emulation of DD by HHH > is finite or infinite DD cannot possibly reach its > own "ret" instruction and terminate normally. > So again, no attempt to explain the difference. So your admission that they are the same and permission to replace them in quotes stands.