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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: The key undecidable instance that I know about Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 13:26:52 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vqkj0r$qjom$4@dont-email.me> References: <vqkib1$r5np$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 18:26:51 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a7cd4af0ac1547313f65cbaef3f65f1f"; logging-data="872214"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/TTfU2mBmlFPnZ+ektP2jR" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:u2fij7TU/BEwpU+2ArFQ7nY2TCQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqkib1$r5np$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 1782 On 3/9/2025 1:15 PM, olcott wrote: > Is the Liar Paradox True or False? > > LP := ~True(LP) > > ?- LP = not(true(LP)). > LP = not(true(LP)). > > ?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))). > false. > > Its infinitely recursive structure makes it neither true nor false. > Nice try making a new post to dishonestly dodge your false claim: On 3/9/2025 12:34 PM, olcott wrote: > It turns out that all of the undecidable cases > that I know about have no correct yes/no answer. When you know of this one: Does algorithm X with input Y halt when run directly for all X and Y? But no algorithm exists to compute it. Your above claim is also a category error, as an undecidable problem has a valid yes or no answer in all cases as a prerequisite.