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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jos Boersema <Josjoha@market.socialism.nl> Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish Subject: Rabbinical Judaism is possibly the worst enemy of Israel. Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 17:49:00 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 165 Message-ID: <vqkkac$rfug$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2025 18:49:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="08020a15c3632e218ba55ae833cdeb66"; logging-data="901072"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19u4iTD7POaAKHuq6Nk0M5Y" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jjfZ+Hk8XgYdIzrO2EX9EcKR2Ho= Bytes: 10505 title: Where Are You, Messiah, Moshiach? EPISODE 4. source: Barbell Barry link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ds2Lr9ue8Y (I see now that this is probably a repost by someone on some kind of other channel.) Reply ... Why don't you do Teshuvah then, _before_ 'moshiach' causes perhaps - with the help of heaven - for a minority (a very small minority? 5% ? 1% ?) of Jewish people to finally overthrow Rabbinical Judaism ? Why do you follow the Rabbinical idols Hillel the Elder (prozbul, Lamp of Helena Sun disk idolatry), and Rambam (Shemita 10:8, overthrow of the Jubilee), and your Rabbinical breaking of the Shabbos (fake new day moment) ? Was Abraham a follower ? Was Moshe Rabbeinu a follower ? Why are you and the rest of the Jewish people who oppose the Torah, a _follower_ of these idols. Israel thinks everything is about _following_ isn't it, follow this idol, follow that idol. Always following, always going after someone's back. In Bereshieth God first made cattle, and then humans, if I recall. I always found that interesting. Are humans a form of cattle, who can only follow and not think for themselves ? Hillel and Rambam are absolutely preposterous with their treasons of the Torah. How is your follower attitude helping you with this problem ? Always following, not thinking and searching for the truth, even though it is plenty obvious. Unable to take initiative, unable to make decisions, unable to make judgements, is this the Jewish people ? Then I don't think there is any hope. Is this why you want a King like the Nations, so you can be followers all day every day and completely loose the ability for initiative, thinking, judging, making decisions ? Is that what it is to be a human being, to be a follower, a slave ? Why didn't Hillel then follow the Torah, why didn't Rambam follow the Torah. Why are they special and allowed to overthrow the Torah and the truth, yet you follow _them_ and you do _not_ follow Hashem or Moshe Rabbeinu (or however you want to put it). Why aren't you then _loyal_ followers, from the beginning. Do you realize _what_ you are following ? Money, you follow the few who break the Torah in order to get more money and power for themselves: illegal land ownership (no Jubilee anymore, hence theft of land condoned by the Rabbis who have illegally overthrown the Jubilee), and stealing the money from the poor after the 7th year (prozbul). You follow what all the Nations who become decadent follow: the rich, the rich & greedy, who eventually become the Plutocracy, the Tyrants, the Pharaos. Right ? But apparently you are not allowed to think, do not allow yourself to think, you must follow, follow follow. Remember the Nazis, what where they famous for ? Goose stepping, following follow follow. Perhaps that was the spectre heaven put in front of you, so that perhaps you would learn to not be like that. You need to snap out of this follower attitude sometimes, and calibrate again _what_ you are following here exactly. Is it still good ? Is it still true ? Was it perhaps corrupted ? You will remember that the Torah says explicitly not to follow the ways of your forefathers, but to listen to the Torah, which is clear. The _written Torah_ that is. Moshe Rabbeinu even made plates, hacked in stone, so that you could not change it. Written laws, not oral talk, written laws. You are following after your own willy nilly, which is fine with me if you want to do that, but I warn you: what you are following is phony. Rabbinical Judaism is phony, it's _not the Torah_ not enough of it at least. Not enough Torah to Redeem Israel. You cannot have a Nation without an economy. Land ownership is critical. What do the rich always want ? Land. They know where the power is at in the economy. Sure, they want money as well, but also all the land. Rabbinical Judaism is an open rebellion against the Torah. Open rebellion against the truth. Prozbul, Rambam Shemita 10:8, it is completely out in the open. Anyone can see it. You don't want to see it. You want to be a follower, and not rock the boat or get your life into trouble. Abraham hit the idols, Moshe Rabbeinu hit the guards of Egypt. They cared for the truth, no matter what would happen to them. They had principles, courage, and apparently a great love for what is true, right and just. So much so unlike the Jewish people now. Here you also talk about the world is going to be changed. The mistake you make is that you think you will for sure be part of that, that Rabbis can be a part of that, or that most Jewish people or all of them will be a part of that. I warn you, that you all will probably not be a part of that. Some will, but it looks like the vast majority will not, and the Rabbis also will not. If your behavior goes on this way as a group and a people, smaller and smaller it gets. It may already be down to maximum 1% of the Jewish people at this point. Changed, you think an outside force will change you ? If you don't change yourself to care for the truth, then the only _change_ I think will come, is that those who refused to care for the truth will just be removed to make room. If Hashem is going to change you, he could have done that in the beginning. You have to decide to do it yourself, to make it your own life. Not so ? Well, I also don't know, but think about it: what if this is true, and you are waiting on nothing but being removed. Then it is too late. Is it wrong to start caring now ? Obviously it is not wrong. Then what is the obvious decision here ? I guess it is like this: fight against Hillel and Rambam, or you risk going down with them when the truth finally wins. Is the Torah a consumer product, are you consumers of the Torah, just "lalala" and God will solve the big problems with your character in the end, or are you doers of the truth, justice and peace, willing to cause yourself some trouble or worry if you are alerted to doing something wrong (which is exactly what I'm doing here, if you notice). Get out of the apathetic attitude. Get rid of Hillel and Rambam, or there won't be a Redemption until you do, because it is _impossible_ to have a Redemption under their phony laws (especially Rambam with his overthrow of the Jubilee, this is a catastrophy for which there is no solution in my opinion at least). Stop sweet talking yourself, pretending it is not so. The Jubilee is _forever_ overthrown by Rabbinical Judaism. That was the intention to misread the Torah, and also Israel will never be divided in all the 12 tribes again as far as know. The outside chance that Rabbinical Judaism will redo their overthrow of the Jubilee by some kind of magical hat trick, it is not worth it to wait on that. They serve the enemy, they have proven themselves. Prozbul is also completely obvious. There is no way out of that. Either you care for the truth and the Torah, or you do not and you follow Rabbinical Judaism, possibly to a bitter end. * End reply. Israel: a hopeless people. If 1% makes it to the Redemption, I would be quite surprised. I was wondering if the game has changed at this point. The goal is not to get as many Jewish people in the Redemption anymore, but to get as few as possible. There are so few good honest reliable people within Israel, the moral and intellectual level of this people is so low (never mind the gentiles, that is so much worse still), that almost any mixture into it from unreliable elements will blow the whole thing apart fast. The goal then becomes ... the fewer the better, to at least make it good. The absolute minimum would be 1 person I guess, just literally one person. Start all over again, as with Abraham, or with Moshe Rabbeinu if HKB'H his plan had been done. It may yet come to that. They may yet create this kind of a future for themselves, that there is literally only one person who is going to make it. I guess 'the Prophets' say otherwise, so maybe there is some hope that at least it will be something that can be called a group or small Nation. Some Indian tribe, if I recall, already called themselves a Nation when they where some 16 000 in total. Tribes could be quite small in the past. They think they are fine, there is nothing to worry about. Perhaps this is how it is supposed to go for them, so that they will not defend themselves and so that they will be destroyed, to make space for those who do care. Party on then ! Put the music louder ! Drink some more. 4 cups of wine for 'moshiach day' ? Make it 5 next time ! Stay in America, do not go to Eretz Yisroel. Follow the Rabbis, do everything they say, so that it is less likely you will make it in the Redemption, and the others who want to live the truth do not have to be weighed down by you. How about some more gay Rabbis, go all the way, burn down the Torah, why haven't you done that yet ? Nothing they take serious I guess, then make that the center of your life, and make certain you get sorted *out* with the enemy, forever. The Torah didn't change, I'm saying absolutely nothing new in terms of the Torah of Moshe Rabbeinu. You say something new with your Rambam and Hillel, I do not. I offer my own system also, but I don't even claim that this is what Moshe Rabbeinu said. Obviously it isn't, although there are quite a lot of similarities (because the truth is one, I suppose). Oy oy oy, what an apathetic people, what a mindless followers. -- Economic & political ideology, worked out into Constitutional models, with a multi-facetted implementation plan. http://market.socialism.nl