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  John Harshman wrote:

> But that's the purpose of the "humans are apes" idea: to emphasize our 
> relationships to other animals.

But it's not the relationship, as I pointed out. It's mere the
conventional means of categorization.

>> Secondly, it's not a "Truth" but a "Convention." It's a way that
>> we order things... our relationship to other animals. It's how
>> we put things together in our minds to aid on our understanding.
> 
>> It's not real. Logically, it makes just as much sense to go the
>> other way:  "If we are humans than our ancestors were humans and
>> the LCA was a human and so on & so forth..."
> 
> Taken to its logical conclusion, then, you would like to declare that 
> all of life be considered human.

No. Taken with reading comprehension, I just said that the goal is to
communicate not act dogmatic. As a narcissist, you must control
conversations. They exist as an exercise in power, in your ego.

Calling humans "Apes," though not a reality of nature but a human
convention, was a barrier to communication with many creationists. And
you're a narcissist, you can't cede that as you need control.

>> That's actually logic. You really need to summon a healthy dose
>> of idiocy to not be able to see this. Just because we have
>> selected to group things a certain way does not mean that there
>> aren't other ways to group them. So why get all dogmatic in the
>> first place? I mean, in addition to the communications issue..

> You aren't actually

Again, as a narcissist this is sacrilegious, "Ceding power to
others." To people who aren't a head case, there's nothing to even
argue.

>> Also, it's inaccurate. The LCA was bipedal and all in but absolute
>> certainty used tools for real, not some idiot "I'm using hammer
>> as a noun, instead of 'bang' or 'whack', so that manifests the
>> noun into existence!"
> 
> What LCA? 

It's a mystery!

That's it! That's the ticket! (You headcase!)

> There seems to be no connection between

For you, the only thing that can matter is yourself.

> You seem to be assuming that technology will stay at its current state 
> forever. Why? 

Let's test if you're saying someone of any value or merely expressing
your narcissism:  Assume technology does not "stay at its current state
forever"... look around. See aliens?

Whoops!  Your opinion is yet another expression of your narcissistic
personality disorder.



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