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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!panix!.POSTED.panix6.panix.com!nan.users.panix.com!robomod!not-for-mail From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Newsgroups: comp.lang.c,news.groups.proposals Subject: Re: Informal discussion: comp.lang.rust? Followup-To: news.groups.proposals Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:35:37 EDT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Approved: NGP Approval Key <ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org> Message-ID: <vqmviu$pki$1@reader1.panix.com> References: <vqmi1p$f1f$1@reader1.panix.com> <vqmofm$6r9q$1@news.xmission.com> <vqmt6a$abj$2@reader1.panix.com> <vqmuec$1cs4o$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix6.panix.com:166.84.1.6"; logging-data="2553"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-NGP-Policy: http://www.big-8.org/~ngp X-NGP-Info-1: Send submissions to ngp@nan.users.panix.com X-NGP-Info-2: Send technical/policy queries to ngp-admin@nan.users.panix.com X-Comment: Moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP <https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stump> X-Spam-Relay-Country: DE US US X-Spam-DCC: www.nova53.net: mailcrunch2.panix.com 1206; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Authentication-Results: mail2.panix.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=spitfire.i.gajendra.net Authentication-Results: mail2.panix.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=panix.com X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) X-Auth: PGPMoose V2.0 PGP news.groups.proposals iEYEARECAAYFAmfPWykACgkQrPkQbuk9hdtyrwCgm85/f3enZ1CvKZJmjM4cotg9 oVAAn3C5As80yZJm+J5jltsHE1GsnDwl =v45B Bytes: 3562 Lines: 45 [Note: follows once again set to news.groups.proposals] In article <vqmuec$1cs4o$1@dont-email.me>, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote: >On 10/03/2025 14:32, Dan Cross wrote: > ><snip> > >> Topicality is part of the reason the Big-8 guidance for >> introducing these discussions recommends cross-posting to groups >> where the topic comes up semi-regularly, but setting follow ups >> to news.groups.proposals, as I had done, and have done again >> here. ;-) > >You will no doubt be aware that this discussion has already >fragmented over three groups (follow-ups are not everyone's cup >of tea). Presumably you will be following the discussion in all >of those groups? I will attempt to do so, yes. Perhaps people dislike Followup-To; to that, I say that it is unfortunate that people do not want to follow what seems like a reasonable and a well-defined process. See e.g., https://www.big-8.org/wiki/How_to_Create_a_New_Big-8_Newsgroup, specifically this text from the section titled, "Informal Discussion": |The proponent of the newsgroup ought to cross-post the idea to |other, relevant newsgroups in addition to |news.groups[.proposals]. In these crossposts, followups should |be directed to news.groups[.proposals] so that discussion of |the idea is confined to a single location. This makes it easier |for interested parties to follow the entire discussion in one |place, and for uninterested parties to avoid the discussion. Clearly the initial cross-posting guidance from Big-8 is meant to encourage letting potentially interested parties know that the discussion is happening in news.groups.proposals as a courtesy to those that do not regularly read news.groups.*, not as a way to split the discussion $n$ different ways. In that context, I can't think of a good reason to ignore the followup header. - Dan C.