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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 13:38:03 -0500
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On 3/10/2025 10:21 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 3/10/2025 4:38 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/9/2025 2:00 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 13:51:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/9/2025 1:24 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 9 Mar 2025 10:46:25 -0500, AMuzi 
>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://ktla.com/news/local-news/lasd-looking-for-2- 
>>>>>>> people-seen-near-southern-california-bikeway-murder- 
>>>>>>> scene/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was it one of those "kiddie trails?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like. BE VERY AFRAID!  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Oh hell no. Got a gun.
>>>
>>> Because you're afraid, obviously.
>>>
>>> (OK, I'm done.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I presume even in US that the majority of gun crime is 
>> with folks who know
>> each other. Ie not just opportunistic crime.
>>
>> Unconvinced that you’re going to convince folks to be honest!
> 
> Of course I won't convince a person whose most fundamental 
> belief is "I gotta carry a gun to be safe." Any time they 
> hear of a similar one-in-a-million incident occurring 
> thousands of miles away, they take it as "proof" that they 
> _must_ carry their macho toy to be safe. But they 
> simultaneously pretend there's no fear involved, none at 
> all! Because admitting that fear contradicts their brave 
> macho self image.
> 
> Changing their mind would require a Road to Damascus moment, 
> maybe something like accidentally shooting their best friend 
> dead. They're absolutely impervious to data or logic.
> 
> On my ride today, I will not carry a gun nor be afraid. 
> How's that for macho?  ;-)
> 

People form their own opinions and arrange their own 
behavior based on their own situation.

My daughter for example used to take the train to work in 
inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters.
No longer.

There were four murders at her neighborhood (Rogers Park) 
train station in 2024.

More in the neighborhood:
https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/medical-examiner-confirms-rogers-park-hate-crime-gunman-died-by-suicide.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/02/quick-work-by-cops-leads-to-charges-in-double-shooting-that-left-1-dead-in-rogers-park.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/02/gunmen-rob-loyola-student-carjack-driver-nearby.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/02/bag-of-cash-gun-found-at-rogers-park-shooting-scene-1-dead-1-critical.html

Red Line train of late:
https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/15-year-old-boy-was-part-of-robbery-crew-that-mugged-3-on-the-red-line-police.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/group-beat-and-robbed-senior-citizen-on-the-red-line-police-say-in-new-seeking-to-identify-bulletin.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/he-attacked-a-74-year-old-with-wire-cutters-at-fullerton-cta-station-prosecutors-say.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/river-north-robber-was-wearing-an-electronic-monitoring-bracelet-for-another-attempted-robbery-officials-say.html

https://cwbchicago.com/2025/03/man-charged-with-north-side-train-robbery-after-cop-recognizes-him-in-wanted-poster.html

She does not carry and will not (which is good. she is 
psychologically ill-suited to use of firearms).

Then again, she says being run down by a car on icy streets 
is less likely than being mugged on the train.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971