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From: Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com>
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In article <vqih90$1pj$1@reader1.panix.com>,
Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote:
>D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> I did not get the corona vaccine, because it can cause death, ...
>
>True, it can.  It killed almost one percent as many people as driving
>or walking to the pharmacy to get the vaccination did.  And almost
>a hundred-thousandth as many people as covid itself did.

This.  No vaccine is 100% safe, and no vaccine is 100% effective.
There are always going to be downsides, but is the downside
within orders of magnitude of the upside?  With vaccines, no.

I do kind of understand some uneasiness about the Covid
vaccine.  When it was Trumps "Operation Warpspeed", many key
Democrats (Andrew Cuomo in particular) were casting aspersions
on it, presumably because it had Trump cooties in it.  The day
Biden became president, the sides switched.

Yeah, it was rushed.  There was reason for that.

I got the vaccine and boosters (Moderna) because (1) late
60s and (2) diabetic, so significant Covid risk factors.
And I knew some anti-vaxxers personally who died of Covid.

And (3) mRNA vaccines have been around for a while, mostly
used in veterinarian medicine, and the technology is something
we are going to very desperately need when something worse
than Covid pops up.  Vaccine for a novel virus in days or
weeks, rather than months or years.  I was willing to
be a bit of a guinea pig for that.

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