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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: bike path news Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:20:18 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vqpgr2$205pe$5@dont-email.me> References: <vqkd4f$q5vb$1@dont-email.me> <gmjrsjdel67386h5q8dq93fvttdl7foq8g@4ax.com> <vqkke7$rjrf$1@dont-email.me> <8plrsjh8vcsu9srdm0crpkuaingdlipc22@4ax.com> <vqla8n$1018u$1@dont-email.me> <m37mnjFnuacU1@mid.individual.net> <vqn01k$1die7$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbib$1fvjp$1@dont-email.me> <vqns6i$1jg04$2@dont-email.me> <am3vsj1q3ljt92rmtg0lrv1fdcke9b86da@4ax.com> <vqo9gf$1lp77$2@dont-email.me> <vqpbvj$1vnlf$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:20:19 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6a957240b30f7fe7708be07c6393397b"; logging-data="2103086"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+VaE27PJJTG1jdvP2pnt1Di38e5dSeg+w=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ACCoyWFZ5oDIVPygV4MrDH9gX0A= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqpbvj$1vnlf$1@dont-email.me> On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote: >>> >>> Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ... >> >> Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish for firearms, and >> the effect it has on society. And I exhibit scorn for paranoia so >> severe as to cause a person to _require_ a firearm to do ordinary >> things like ride a quiet bike path, drive a car, fill a gas tank, etc. >> >> I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. Not this one. >> >> And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. One classmate of >> mine in an adult education class brought his handgun to a class picnic >> in the country. Nice guy, but that was crazy paranoia. Another guy, >> less admirable in general, bragged to me about carrying his handgun >> into a folk music concert we attended. Absolute stupidity, and crazy >> paranoia. >> >> That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that he used a special >> stand to hold his guitar out away from his belly. Maybe his physical >> shortcomings triggered feelings of great vulnerability, as with Mr. >> Tricycle? Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off the charts crazy - >> as is Mr. Tricycle's. >> > > Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'. > Same argument. > > And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain that this > shopping mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced a deranged madman > shooting into a crown before, and most probably never will again. > > However, on one fine July day, it happened. > > https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed-citizen-landed-8- > of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass-shooting-in-15-seconds/ > > Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying only days after the > Indiana statute had changed to allow carry. > > p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without preparation is > excellent marksmanship. Not achievable without some diligence and range > time. > Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for personal protection and never take the time and diligence. If there was a law requiring range time and accuracy to carry a gun, I'd be a lot more confident in the general public carrying guns. Instead, cases like this are far more prevalent: https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots-and-kills-mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431 -- Add xx to reply