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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: bike path news Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:28:47 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 53 Message-ID: <vqphat$20u1j$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqkd4f$q5vb$1@dont-email.me> <gmjrsjdel67386h5q8dq93fvttdl7foq8g@4ax.com> <vqkke7$rjrf$1@dont-email.me> <8plrsjh8vcsu9srdm0crpkuaingdlipc22@4ax.com> <vqla8n$1018u$1@dont-email.me> <m37mnjFnuacU1@mid.individual.net> <vqn01k$1die7$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbib$1fvjp$1@dont-email.me> <vqns6i$1jg04$2@dont-email.me> <vqnv2t$1k5ti$1@dont-email.me> <vqpeu4$205pe$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:28:45 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e75db8b2a61edf1d371561d3d7690c15"; logging-data="2127923"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19VXt2SL9/VVw1v4pVgnvvO" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZmjqdZE/g7y6ro3Vw/8juHd/nPY= In-Reply-To: <vqpeu4$205pe$3@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3179 On 3/11/2025 8:47 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: > On 3/10/2025 8:11 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 3/10/2025 6:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 3/10/2025 2:38 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> >>>> People form their own opinions and arrange their own >>>> behavior based on their own situation. >>> >>> Yes - or based on their own phobias. I know people who >>> are horribly afraid of spiders, garter snakes, honeybees, >>> graveyards and more. >>> >>> Smart? No. Logical? No. But at least they're not carrying >>> lethal weaponry. >>> >>>> My daughter for example used to take the train to work >>>> in inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters. >>>> No longer. ... >>> >>> You're the anecdote master, Andrew. But IIRC you've not >>> yet found a horrifying anecdote about quiet bike paths in >>> suburban Florida, near our timid tricycle rider. >>> >> >> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a bike >> path. >> > > And there's no evidence regarding motive, whether or not > there was a struggle, if the victim was taken by > surprise...How much good do you think carrying a gun is > going to do if you're strolling along the bike path and > someone comes up from behind and pops one into your skull? > > How relevant would you consider the crime to safety of a > bike path is if the victim was specifically targeted rather > than a crime of opportunity? > > This single data point hardly rationalizes carrying a gun > out of fear _literally_ 3000 miles away. > I don't know anything more than the report we both read. But overall, I did routinely carry where/when I felt it was prudent. Never on a bicycle, and I generally don't carry now but I understand that situations vary. Greatly. As do personal assessments of risk. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971