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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:36:33 -0500
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On 3/11/2025 9:20 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ...
>>>
>>> Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish for 
>>> firearms, and the effect it has on society. And I exhibit 
>>> scorn for paranoia so severe as to cause a person to 
>>> _require_ a firearm to do ordinary things like ride a 
>>> quiet bike path, drive a car, fill a gas tank, etc.
>>>
>>> I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. Not 
>>> this one.
>>>
>>> And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. One 
>>> classmate of mine in an adult education class brought his 
>>> handgun to a class picnic in the country. Nice guy, but 
>>> that was crazy paranoia. Another guy, less admirable in 
>>> general, bragged to me about carrying his handgun into a 
>>> folk music concert we attended. Absolute stupidity, and 
>>> crazy paranoia.
>>>
>>> That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that he 
>>> used a special stand to hold his guitar out away from his 
>>> belly. Maybe his physical shortcomings triggered feelings 
>>> of great vulnerability, as with Mr. Tricycle? 
>>> Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off the charts crazy 
>>> - as is Mr. Tricycle's.
>>>
>>
>> Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'.
>> Same argument.
>>
>> And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain that 
>> this shopping  mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced 
>> a deranged madman shooting into a crown before, and most 
>> probably never will again.
>>
>> However, on one fine July day, it happened.
>>
>> https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed- 
>> citizen-landed-8- of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass- 
>> shooting-in-15-seconds/
>>
>> Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying only 
>> days after the Indiana statute had changed to allow carry.
>>
>> p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without 
>> preparation is excellent marksmanship. Not achievable 
>> without some diligence and range time.
>>
> 
> Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for personal 
> protection and never take the time and diligence. If there 
> was a law requiring range time and accuracy to carry a gun, 
> I'd be a lot more confident in the general public carrying 
> guns. Instead, cases like this are far more prevalent:
> 
> https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots-and- 
> kills-mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431
> 

Much agreed.

In the same way that red light running cyclists or the 
meandering idiots in and out of a lane or the wrong-way 
cyclists all drive me nuts, I very much agree that firearm 
ineptitude/fecklessness/reckless disregard is a real problem.

Which is a matter of practical implementation not of 
principle itself.
-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971