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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: More systemdCrap Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:50:27 +0000 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 43 Message-ID: <vqpijj$210sd$2@dont-email.me> References: <vqn41l$1efis$1@dont-email.me> <vqna2v$1fks2$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbm7$1g56j$1@dont-email.me> <gjo3alxe38.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vqnja1$1hrbi$1@dont-email.me> <rq44alxv4u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <20250310152856.00004b5a@gmail.com> <vqoqfk$1s78c$3@dont-email.me> <h8m5alx305.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:50:28 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2b7ed091c89f64c79b78af56aa5ae3d2"; logging-data="2130829"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Y0kVHjuB+kkznzAm9IVrbYDHrD9tKRjQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:uh2WkvNuwYTz3Zg5oNA0kAQCbAo= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <h8m5alx305.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> Bytes: 2640 On 11/03/2025 12:17, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-03-11 08:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 10/03/2025 22:28, John Ames wrote: >>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:14:19 +0100 >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Nothing is broken, it has been intentionally designed this way >>> >>> Okay, sure - but that design is stupid. >>> >> Exactly. >> >> Journalctl should be able to take the One True Logfile and scan it, >> rewriting items to be retained and discarding items to be deleted . >> > Nope. > > That's manipulating information and has legal implications. Yes, that's > the intentional reason why systemd refuses to do it. > So is truncating it to the last day, or the last 25Mbyte. Which it quite happily does. And this isn't just truncating it, if it is a flat file it has to be rewritten to exclude the front. If its a database, it has to delete certain records And I am sure the first thing any hacker would do would be to write a decent journalctl that would erase his presence selectively So I am sorry, your arguments are as full of holes as Eliza's bucket > > -- “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.” ― Groucho Marx