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From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
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Subject: Re: More systemdCrap
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:29:02 +0000
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On 11/03/2025 14:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-03-11 15:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 11/03/2025 12:17, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-11 08:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 10/03/2025 22:28, John Ames wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:14:19 +0100
>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing is broken, it has been intentionally designed this way
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, sure - but that design is stupid.
>>>>>
>>>> Exactly.
>>>>
>>>> Journalctl should be able to take the One True Logfile and scan it, 
>>>> rewriting items to be retained and discarding items to be deleted .
>>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> That's manipulating information and has legal implications. Yes, 
>>> that's the intentional reason why systemd refuses to do it.
>>>
>> So is truncating it to the last day, or the last 25Mbyte. Which it 
>> quite happily does.
>>
>> And this isn't just truncating it, if it is a flat file it has to be 
>> rewritten to exclude the front. If its a database, it has to delete 
>> certain records
>>
>> And I am sure the first thing any hacker would do would be to write a 
>> decent journalctl that would erase his presence selectively
>>
>> So I am sorry, your arguments are as full of holes as Eliza's bucket
> 
> Sure.
> 
> Why don't you google around to find a tool that lets you do it? It 
> should be easy, according to you.
> 
Really I would in a younger self simply rewrite  it and put the code on 
Github.
But I am too old and  tired to piss around wiping Poettering's bottom 
for him.


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