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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: More systemdCrap Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 16:25:40 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vqpo64$21rgp$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqn41l$1efis$1@dont-email.me> <vqna2v$1fks2$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbm7$1g56j$1@dont-email.me> <gjo3alxe38.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vqnja1$1hrbi$1@dont-email.me> <rq44alxv4u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <20250310152856.00004b5a@gmail.com> <vqoqfk$1s78c$3@dont-email.me> <op.228vudbda3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net> <vqpinq$210sd$5@dont-email.me> <vqpm42$2221u$1@dont-email.me> <20250311085926.000056b7@gmail.com> <vqpndr$2221u$2@dont-email.me> <20250311091934.0000580d@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:25:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="11bffce6b6aecc3d80deb806213bdf21"; logging-data="2158105"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1983ZYFKb1BnrrFyP0GN3c/Eb8er74OdDM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nZTwpLl4BBo8+ZaNhfPd8vglvAY= In-Reply-To: <20250311091934.0000580d@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2386 On 3/11/25 16:19, John Ames wrote: > On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 16:12:43 +0000 > Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes cryptography doesn't stop you deleting records, it does allow >> people to see when records have been deleted. When there is data >> missing, data they would expect to see. > > True - which further undermines the argument that purge-by-source > cannot be added without completely compromising audit accountability. > I don't think anyone is saying it couldn't be done. However, deleting stuff clearly does compromise accountability. Developing a system that enables it, while also allowing good practice, is probably more complex. I won't say any more, because security, reliability is way outside my knowledge. I'm just a dodgy programmer that you want to defend a system from, I'm not an arch villain/hacker.