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From: Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid>
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Subject: Re: lun - Lucky Number
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 20:44:28 +0000
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On 11/03/2025 19:59, Rich wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 11/03/2025 19:11, Rich wrote:
>>> Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/03/2025 21:32, Rich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking at the source, how does someone with pencil and paper perform
>>>>>>> this magic?:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      n, _ := rand.Int(rand.Reader, max)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roll some dice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d4 give you two bits at a time, d8 give you three, or d16 give
>>>>>> you four. Quick and easy. Or if you prefer decimal, d10s are also
>>>>>> readily available.
>>>>>
>>>>> True, that will work.  Die for generating, pencil and paper for
>>>>> 'recording' the result.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if one had pencil, paper, and no die anywhere?
>>>>
>>>> How may sides does the pencil have? ;-)
>>>
>>> A round pencil, with no sides. :)
>>
>> You've got paper, though.
>>
>> https://www.professororigami.com/how-to-make-an-origami-cube/
>>
>> :-)
> 
> I admit defeat.  :)  With this one can create a 'die' from paper.  It
> may be biased (in that one side may very well weigh slightly more than
> another) but barring massive bias it should be random enough.

Way too complicated: Chew the paper until its one homongonised mess, 
spilt it out, mould into a cube.

Extra credit if you can manage a d20.

I wonder why nobody wants /my/ random numbers!