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From: Ed P <esp@snet.n>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: Last night was "surf and coop."
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:34:50 -0400
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On 3/11/2025 8:17 PM, Carol wrote:
> Ed P wrote:
> 
>> On 3/8/2025 5:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-08, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Make it something close to what they would be expected to make
>>>> with tips. They are the restaurant's employees so they should be
>>>> responsible for paying their employees, not the customers.
>>>
>>> The customers pay the employees either way.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, but they don't want to pay them.  Customers want to make a good
>> wage but want to buy stuff cheap.
>>
>> I see no one yet tried putting a $$ figure on what a server should
>> make.   I will say, the right person in the right place can do far
>> better than minimum.
> 
> Sure we did Ed.  They should make state minimum wage or federal,
> whichever is the lower.  The reason for 'lower' is California is crazy.
> They can still get tips, but folks won't be guilted into it under the
> premise they make only 2.13 an hour when that is actually *very rare*.

No, I'm talking about the wage if tipping is eliminated.  Straight 
hourly rate, no tip. State minimum?  $20/hr?   $30/hr?
It will be added to the food price, of course, on the menu.