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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: bike path news Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:42:37 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 55 Message-ID: <vqrvfv$2jo0r$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqkd4f$q5vb$1@dont-email.me> <gmjrsjdel67386h5q8dq93fvttdl7foq8g@4ax.com> <vqkke7$rjrf$1@dont-email.me> <8plrsjh8vcsu9srdm0crpkuaingdlipc22@4ax.com> <vqla8n$1018u$1@dont-email.me> <m37mnjFnuacU1@mid.individual.net> <vqn01k$1die7$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbib$1fvjp$1@dont-email.me> <vqns6i$1jg04$2@dont-email.me> <vqnv2t$1k5ti$1@dont-email.me> <vqo8o9$1ln43$1@dont-email.me> <vqpbi5$1vp2q$1@dont-email.me> <vqqpbs$295u2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 13:42:40 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4a23cb5627154b21c1a1e8c207de57f4"; logging-data="2744347"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18H7Wbnd37UeiFHGe/Z/S7g" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:GiwtRreeVGPWyeyr/gzQrBL6xz8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqqpbs$295u2$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3505 On 3/11/2025 8:51 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 3/11/2025 8:50 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 3/10/2025 9:56 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 3/10/2025 8:11 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a >>>> bike path. >>> >>> Which does not mean it's even remotely likely on the bike >>> path where Mr. Tricycle Rider rides. It was a one in a >>> million event, thousands of miles away. >>> >>> His fear is as unrealistic as fear of dying from a spider >>> bite. It's almost as unrealistic as fear of walking past >>> a graveyard. It's a phobia, and his quasi-macho defense >>> strategy is even less admirable than clutching a teddy bear. >>> >> >> OK, the risk is remote. But it's not zero. > > Andrew, no risk is zero. But rational and non-phobic > people's assessment of most risks is _usually_ at least > vaguely related to the actual likelihood of the bad event. > > That's not true for some "dangers," like spiders and snakes. > There are fewer than ten deaths from each per year in the > U.S. Yet many people are completely irrational in those > phobias. > > Mr. Tricycle is similarly irrational in his fear of riding a > bike path without his gun. And he's lately let us know that > he's also afraid of driving without a gun or pumping gas > without a gun. He's afraid of pedaling on normal streets, > too, gun or no. Remember, he's still in an endless snit > because I said that if he lacked the courage or competence > to ride normal roads, he could continue just riding back and > forth on his path, but it would be too boring for me. > > His fears are not normal, and his fearful behavior is not > admirable. > Let's check the data shall we? https://www.statista.com/statistics/232564/robbery-rate-in-the-us-by-state/ Risk is higher in Ohio than in Florida. But that's in aggregate by State, and of course each neighborhood or bike path or alley has its own features. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971