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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.spitfire.i.gajendra.net!not-for-mail From: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Why are VSI so focused on Sweden ? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:54:00 -0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: <vqsamo$8he$1@reader1.panix.com> References: <vqas2l$2lru6$1@dont-email.me> <vqquh9$2a8en$1@dont-email.me> <vqr1qt$2mk$1@reader1.panix.com> <vqs1p9$2ka6q$2@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 15:54:00 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="spitfire.i.gajendra.net:166.84.136.80"; logging-data="8750"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) Bytes: 2998 Lines: 47 In article <vqs1p9$2ka6q$2@dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: >On 2025-03-12, Dan Cross <cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net> wrote: >> In article <vqquh9$2a8en$1@dont-email.me>, >> Anonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>I’m not objecting to any specific post or topic in this thread, but don’t >>>even people who occasionally enjoy echo chambers eventually get bored of >>>them? >>>;-) >>>Of course, since the earliest years of c.o.v we’ve very frequently >>>witnessed their formation here. Maybe more often than in the present case >>>(though this topic is small, historically speaking), with at least a >>>tendency to have a continuing sub-thread at of least somewhat c.o.v. >>>subject-relevant content. >>> >>>;-) >> >> You know, it's funny. I've spent a lot of time over the last 8 >> years thinking about echo chambers, because it seemed so utterly >> improbable that the American public could vote Donald Trump into >> the presidency, not once, but twice. Surely his obvious lying, >> his transparent grifting, his shameless and lifelong tendency to >> take advantage of others was so clear that no one would take him >> seriously, let alone vote for him. And yet, here we are. >> >> So I have to ask myself, seriously, "do all those people see >> something that I don't?" And, "am I the one that's wrong?" >> After all, how would I know if I was, in fact, living in an echo >> chamber. > >One of the things I do to make sure I never fall into this trap is to >expose myself to sources of information or viewpoints I strongly disagree >with, to make sure they don't reveal something that my normal sources of >information have "forgotten" to mention. > >It helps you to understand what others are thinking and to help you build >a well-rounded model of reality instead of your reality been based on one >specific set of views. This is good advice. Fortunately (??), at the moment over here, we have very little choice but to do this. >It would be nice if Mr Trump's supporters could do the same. Agreed. - Dan C.