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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:40:26 -0500
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On 3/12/2025 9:13 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 3/12/2025 9:13 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 3/12/2025 2:50 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>> On 3/11/2025 8:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:58:04 -0400, Zen Cycle 
>>>> <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/11/2025 6:47 AM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>> On 11 Mar 2025 10:23:20 GMT, Roger Merriman 
>>>>>> <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 6:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 2:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> People form their own opinions and arrange their own
>>>>>>>>>> behavior based on their own situation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes - or based on their own phobias. I know people 
>>>>>>>>> who are
>>>>>>>>> horribly afraid of spiders, garter snakes, honeybees,
>>>>>>>>> graveyards and more.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Smart? No. Logical? No. But at least they're not 
>>>>>>>>> carrying
>>>>>>>>> lethal weaponry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My daughter for example used to take the train to 
>>>>>>>>>> work in
>>>>>>>>>> inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters.
>>>>>>>>>> No longer. ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You're the anecdote master, Andrew. But IIRC you've 
>>>>>>>>> not yet
>>>>>>>>> found a horrifying anecdote about quiet bike paths in
>>>>>>>>> suburban Florida, near our timid tricycle rider.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a 
>>>>>>>> bike path.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just because it can happen doesn’t mean it will 
>>>>>>> happen, going out on limb
>>>>>>> but I suspect that CatTrike Ryder will be perfectly 
>>>>>>> safe with or without
>>>>>>> carrying any guns on his rides.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suspect he knows this as well, but simply likes 
>>>>>>> having the gun on him?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent more then a year in Vietnam where people did, 
>>>>>> on occasion,
>>>>>> shoot at you and I can assure you that a firearm did 
>>>>>> give you a
>>>>>> certain sense of security :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even when they weren't shooting :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> lol...yeah, let's compare an active war zone to a 
>>>>> florida bike path -
>>>>> that's rational.....
>>>>
>>>> The point was, as I did state, "you felt more secure 
>>>> "even when they
>>>> weren't shooting"
>>>
>>> Comparing a bike path in floriduh in 2025 to vietnam in 
>>> 1970 isn't rational, in fact, it's pretty fucking 
>>> stupid....kunich-level stupid.
>>>
>>>> But as I've said (many times) it is legal in Florida. 
>>>> You would deny
>>>> someone the right to do something that is legal? 
>>>
>>> nope, if he wants to carry a gun, he's free to do so. His 
>>> rationale for carrying one is weak in that the risk of 
>>> being attacked on the trail is less than being struck by 
>>> lightening, and the idea that a fragile old man with his 
>>> admitted deteriorating motor skills, eyesight, and 
>>> hearing could actually defend himself without an 
>>> assailant taking the gun from him and pistol whipping him 
>>> with it is laughable.
>>>
>>> But in the immortal words of Mason Williams, "one day you 
>>> realize that 'I Want to' is the worlds greatest reason".
>>>
>>>
>>>> Isn't it still a
>>>> (sort of) democracy back there?
>>>
>>> The fact that there is no linkage between a working 
>>> democracy and the "right" to own guns notwithstanding, 
>>> the answer to that question is: Sort of, but it's 
>>> slipping fast. In 2022 trump stated “A Massive Fraud of 
>>> this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all 
>>> rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the 
>>> Constitution,”. Throw in the recent SCOTUS decision that 
>>> gave trump broad immunity by ruling that the president is 
>>> immune from prosecution for any and all official acts 
>>> committed as president, followed by his more recent X 
>>> postings “He who saves his Country does not violate any 
>>> Law” (not just once, but twice). Trump is emboldened to 
>>> ignore the rule of law, which is not unlimited to 
>>> blatantly unconstitutional acts (He's already done that 
>>> with his refusal to honor the spending bills passed by 
>>> congress - essentially implementing line-item vetos 
>>> pafter the fact - clearly ruled by SCOTUS as 
>>> unconstitutional numerous times.
>>>
>>> This is the man(?) that the majority of americans voted 
>>> for. So you tell me, do we still have a democracy?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> In the immortal and prescient words of Selena Zito from 
>> September of 2016:
>>
>> “When he makes claims like this, the press takes him 
>> literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him 
>> seriously, but not literally.”
>>
>> She nailed it.
> 
> nope. The recent SCOTUS decision that gave trump broad 
> immunity by ruling that the president is immune from 
> prosecution for any and all official acts committed as 
> president, followed by his more recent X postings “He who 
> saves his Country does not violate any Law” (not just once, 
> but twice). Trump is emboldened to ignore the rule of law, 
> which
> is not unlimited to blatantly unconstitutional acts. He's 
> already done
> that with his refusal to honor the spending bills passed by 
> congress - essentially implementing line-item vetos after 
> the fact - clearly ruled by SCOTUS as unconstitutional 
> numerous times.
> 
>> Oh by the way regarding democracy, hell no!  We are a 
>> Constitutional Republic not yet subject to mob rule.
> 
> Regarding Constitutional republic, hell no! The judicial and 
> legislative branches have give tacit approval for the 
> president to ignore the constitution. If the president can 
> ignore the constitution, it no longer has any purpose.
> 


sorta OT but I think you'd enjoy this latest from Babylon Bee:

https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/trump-amy-coney-barrett-100283520.jpg?resize=1536,1418&quality=75&strip=all

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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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