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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: bike path news Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 13:07:05 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vqsevq$2n6vl$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqkd4f$q5vb$1@dont-email.me> <gmjrsjdel67386h5q8dq93fvttdl7foq8g@4ax.com> <vqkke7$rjrf$1@dont-email.me> <8plrsjh8vcsu9srdm0crpkuaingdlipc22@4ax.com> <vqla8n$1018u$1@dont-email.me> <m37mnjFnuacU1@mid.individual.net> <vqn01k$1die7$1@dont-email.me> <vqnbib$1fvjp$1@dont-email.me> <vqns6i$1jg04$2@dont-email.me> <vqnv2t$1k5ti$1@dont-email.me> <vqo8o9$1ln43$1@dont-email.me> <vqpbi5$1vp2q$1@dont-email.me> <vqqpbs$295u2$1@dont-email.me> <vqrvfv$2jo0r$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 18:07:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1212027cab50fa38172a9e373bd48c21"; logging-data="2857973"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX194NBWUZUKEabCUUzHqX71WFPLTxJLAwNk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:sqtumk+tlRkqHcCdioU9trhCFW0= In-Reply-To: <vqrvfv$2jo0r$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3958 On 3/12/2025 8:42 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 3/11/2025 8:51 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 3/11/2025 8:50 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>> On 3/10/2025 9:56 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 3/10/2025 8:11 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a bike path. >>>> >>>> Which does not mean it's even remotely likely on the bike path where >>>> Mr. Tricycle Rider rides. It was a one in a million event, thousands >>>> of miles away. >>>> >>>> His fear is as unrealistic as fear of dying from a spider bite. It's >>>> almost as unrealistic as fear of walking past a graveyard. It's a >>>> phobia, and his quasi-macho defense strategy is even less admirable >>>> than clutching a teddy bear. >>>> >>> >>> OK, the risk is remote. But it's not zero. >> >> Andrew, no risk is zero. But rational and non-phobic people's >> assessment of most risks is _usually_ at least vaguely related to the >> actual likelihood of the bad event. >> >> That's not true for some "dangers," like spiders and snakes. There are >> fewer than ten deaths from each per year in the U.S. Yet many people >> are completely irrational in those phobias. >> >> Mr. Tricycle is similarly irrational in his fear of riding a bike path >> without his gun. And he's lately let us know that he's also afraid of >> driving without a gun or pumping gas without a gun. He's afraid of >> pedaling on normal streets, too, gun or no. Remember, he's still in an >> endless snit because I said that if he lacked the courage or >> competence to ride normal roads, he could continue just riding back >> and forth on his path, but it would be too boring for me. >> >> His fears are not normal, and his fearful behavior is not admirable. >> > > Let's check the data shall we? > > https://www.statista.com/statistics/232564/robbery-rate-in-the-us-by-state/ Sure, let's check the data and try to understand it. Your source says there are 42 robberies per 100,000 people in Florida. That's a 0.04% chance of being robbed. People are really supposed to carry a gun because of that? Or let's look at NRA's statement on the odds of needing a gun for self defense. Here it is, in their photo: https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2015/10/20/nranoirdgu.jpg The odds of getting hit by a meteorite might be about the same. It takes a lot of paranoia to be afraid of odds like that! -- - Frank Krygowski