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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!feeds.news.ox.ac.uk!news.ox.ac.uk!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Observe_the_trend=2E_It=E2=80=99s_happening=2E_Give?= =?UTF-8?Q?_it_time=2E?= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 17:26:15 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 13 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vqt8n9$2spae$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq8k3n$29ai1$1@dont-email.me> <vq9v8e$2gefd$1@dont-email.me> <vqb4h0$2mq6d$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="15565"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:HWh/d+PqPPAGQHQ+LLvUdxmt3js= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 4DE0522978C; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:26:32 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AA43229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:26:30 -0400 (EDT) id B11641C08A7; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 00:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by newsfeed.bofh.team (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A55201C04AB for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 00:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BD9B622AB for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 00:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/2BD9B622AB; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=curioustaxon.omy.net id 43DAEDC01CA; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 01:26:19 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 01:26:19 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX195/7sid3eynrZcu/HGzfzdiGN9/EgaOcA= In-Reply-To: <vqb4h0$2mq6d$1@dont-email.me> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3187 On 3/5/25 7:24 PM, MarkE wrote: > Would you agree that there are limits to NS as described, which lead to > an upper limit to functional complexity in living things? How these > limits might be determined is a separate issue, but the first step is > establishing this premise. No, I don't agree with the premise. Creating functional complexity is what evolution does. I see no indication of an upper limit. -- Mark Isaak "Wisdom begins when you discover the difference between 'That doesn't make sense' and 'I don't understand.'" - Mary Doria Russell