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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: bike path news
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:52:49 -0400
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On 3/12/2025 4:11 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 3/12/2025 12:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 3/12/2025 9:13 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2025 9:13 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 3/12/2025 2:50 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:58:04 -0400, Zen Cycle 
>>>>>> <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 6:47 AM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11 Mar 2025 10:23:20 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 6:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 2:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> People form their own opinions and arrange their own
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior based on their own situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes - or based on their own phobias. I know people who are
>>>>>>>>>>> horribly afraid of spiders, garter snakes, honeybees,
>>>>>>>>>>> graveyards and more.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Smart? No. Logical? No. But at least they're not carrying
>>>>>>>>>>> lethal weaponry.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My daughter for example used to take the train to work in
>>>>>>>>>>>> inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No longer. ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You're the anecdote master, Andrew. But IIRC you've not yet
>>>>>>>>>>> found a horrifying anecdote about quiet bike paths in
>>>>>>>>>>> suburban Florida, near our timid tricycle rider.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a bike path.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just because it can happen doesn’t mean it will happen, going 
>>>>>>>>> out on limb
>>>>>>>>> but I suspect that CatTrike Ryder will be perfectly safe with 
>>>>>>>>> or without
>>>>>>>>> carrying any guns on his rides.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suspect he knows this as well, but simply likes having the 
>>>>>>>>> gun on him?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I spent more then a year in Vietnam where people did, on occasion,
>>>>>>>> shoot at you and I can assure you that a firearm did give you a
>>>>>>>> certain sense of security :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even when they weren't shooting :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol...yeah, let's compare an active war zone to a florida bike 
>>>>>>> path -
>>>>>>> that's rational.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point was, as I did state, "you felt more secure "even when they
>>>>>> weren't shooting"
>>>>>
>>>>> Comparing a bike path in floriduh in 2025 to vietnam in 1970 isn't 
>>>>> rational, in fact, it's pretty fucking stupid....kunich-level stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But as I've said (many times) it is legal in Florida. You would deny
>>>>>> someone the right to do something that is legal? 
>>>>>
>>>>> nope, if he wants to carry a gun, he's free to do so. His rationale 
>>>>> for carrying one is weak in that the risk of being attacked on the 
>>>>> trail is less than being struck by lightening, and the idea that a 
>>>>> fragile old man with his admitted deteriorating motor skills, 
>>>>> eyesight, and hearing could actually defend himself without an 
>>>>> assailant taking the gun from him and pistol whipping him with it 
>>>>> is laughable.
>>>>>
>>>>> But in the immortal words of Mason Williams, "one day you realize 
>>>>> that 'I Want to' is the worlds greatest reason".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't it still a
>>>>>> (sort of) democracy back there?
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that there is no linkage between a working democracy and 
>>>>> the "right" to own guns notwithstanding, the answer to that 
>>>>> question is: Sort of, but it's slipping fast. In 2022 trump stated 
>>>>> “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the 
>>>>> termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those 
>>>>> found in the Constitution,”. Throw in the recent SCOTUS decision 
>>>>> that gave trump broad immunity by ruling that the president is 
>>>>> immune from prosecution for any and all official acts committed as 
>>>>> president, followed by his more recent X postings “He who saves his 
>>>>> Country does not violate any Law” (not just once, but twice). Trump 
>>>>> is emboldened to ignore the rule of law, which is not unlimited to 
>>>>> blatantly unconstitutional acts (He's already done that with his 
>>>>> refusal to honor the spending bills passed by congress - 
>>>>> essentially implementing line-item vetos pafter the fact - clearly 
>>>>> ruled by SCOTUS as unconstitutional numerous times.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the man(?) that the majority of americans voted for. So you 
>>>>> tell me, do we still have a democracy?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the immortal and prescient words of Selena Zito from September of 
>>>> 2016:
>>>>
>>>> “When he makes claims like this, the press takes him literally, but 
>>>> not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.”
>>>>
>>>> She nailed it.
>>>
>>> nope. The recent SCOTUS decision that gave trump broad immunity by 
>>> ruling that the president is immune from prosecution for any and all 
>>> official acts committed as president, followed by his more recent X 
>>> postings “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law” (not 
>>> just once, but twice). Trump is emboldened to ignore the rule of law, 
>>> which
>>> is not unlimited to blatantly unconstitutional acts. He's already done
>>> that with his refusal to honor the spending bills passed by congress 
>>> - essentially implementing line-item vetos after the fact - clearly 
>>> ruled by SCOTUS as unconstitutional numerous times.
>>>
>>>> Oh by the way regarding democracy, hell no!  We are a Constitutional 
>>>> Republic not yet subject to mob rule.
>>>
>>> Regarding Constitutional republic, hell no! The judicial and 
>>> legislative branches have give tacit approval for the president to 
>>> ignore the constitution. If the president can ignore the 
>>> constitution, it no longer has any purpose.
>>>
>>
>>
>> sorta OT but I think you'd enjoy this latest from Babylon Bee:
>>
>> https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/03/trump-amy-coney- 
>> barrett-100283520.jpg?resize=1536,1418&quality=75&strip=all
> 
> It's probably the same guy that signed off on that horrible USMCA deal.

Who was the guy who bragged about "warp speed" for that COVID vaccine?


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- Frank Krygowski