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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Very Stupid Mistake or Liars Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 08:41:57 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 77 Message-ID: <vqunb6$392on$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqntaq$1jut5$1@dont-email.me> <vqqrin$28lh2$4@dont-email.me> <vqs9ck$2lqb2$1@dont-email.me> <vqud4e$36e14$3@dont-email.me> <vqueuk$idv$1@reader1.panix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:41:58 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="29518dbc565baf39934ae16a91b6709b"; logging-data="3443479"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QOCb5IQU3wBJF5EmBD+wS" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8VB09mix2D2s5xFos7L7urG2wME= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250313-4, 3/13/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vqueuk$idv$1@reader1.panix.com> Bytes: 4010 On 3/13/2025 6:18 AM, Dan Cross wrote: > In article <vqud4e$36e14$3@dont-email.me>, > Fred. Zwarts <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> wrote: >> Op 12.mrt.2025 om 16:31 schreef olcott: >>> [snip] >>> When N steps of DDD are correctly emulated by every element >>> of the set of C functions named HHH that do x86 emulation and >>> >>> N is each element of the set of natural numbers >>> >>> then no DDD of the set of HHH/DDD pairs ever reaches its >>> "return" instruction and terminates normally. >> >> In other words no HHH of the set of HHH/DDD pairs ever succeeds to >> complete the simulation of a halting program. Failure to reach the end >> of a halting program is not a great success. If all HHH in this set >> fail, it would be better to change your mind and start working on >> something more useful. > > He seems to think that he's written a program that detects that > his thing hasn't 'reached its "return" instruction and > terminate[d] normally', given some number of steps, where that > number is ... the cardinality of the natural numbers. > > I wonder if he knows that the set of natural numbers is > infintite, though I suspect he'd say something like, "but it's > countable!" To which I'd surmise that he has no idea what that > means. > void DDD() { HHH(DDD); return; } Everyone here knows that when N steps of DDD are correctly simulated by HHH that DDD never reaches its own "return" instruction and terminates normally thus never halts. *AND THEY LIE ABOUT IT BY ENDLESSLY CHANGING THE SUBJECT* My posthumous reviewers will condemn them. When DDD is correctly simulated by HHH once the behavior of DDD exactly matches the infinite recursion behavior pattern. int DD() { int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); if (Halt_Status) HERE: goto HERE; return Halt_Status; } We have the exact same effect when N steps of DD are correctly emulated by HHH. I created DDD because some of my reviewers are not technically competent enough to see that line 2 of DD is unreachable code when N steps of DD are correctly simulated by HHH. > I plonked Olcott a few years ago, yet I see dozens of posts a > day a day of people replying to him. > > I gather, based on reading the quoted text, that he is near the > end of a battle with cancer; that's very sad. Perhaps he should > spend what time remains to him with friends and family, and less > arguing with strangers on USENET. Maybe we could all help him > in this endeavor by not responding. I, for one, intend to take > my own advice after this post. > > - Dan C. > -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer