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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Very Stupid Mistake or Liars Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 15:35:07 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: <vqvfhr$3s1qt$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqntaq$1jut5$1@dont-email.me> <vqqrin$28lh2$4@dont-email.me> <vqs9ck$2lqb2$1@dont-email.me> <vqud4e$36e14$3@dont-email.me> <vqueuk$idv$1@reader1.panix.com> <vqunb6$392on$1@dont-email.me> <vqvb5d$3ngni$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 21:35:08 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c857a159987cd29a4265e3ac68f94ca5"; logging-data="4065117"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19YSb3NFduxQtzkbxWGeevM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:LysxhlEqhpm6ZbOo9BDeCq6Ia18= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqvb5d$3ngni$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250313-6, 3/13/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3438 On 3/13/2025 2:20 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 13.mrt.2025 om 14:41 schreef olcott: >> On 3/13/2025 6:18 AM, Dan Cross wrote: >>> In article <vqud4e$36e14$3@dont-email.me>, >>> Fred. Zwarts <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> wrote: >>>> Op 12.mrt.2025 om 16:31 schreef olcott: >>>>> [snip] >>>>> When N steps of DDD are correctly emulated by every element >>>>> of the set of C functions named HHH that do x86 emulation and >>>>> >>>>> N is each element of the set of natural numbers >>>>> >>>>> then no DDD of the set of HHH/DDD pairs ever reaches its >>>>> "return" instruction and terminates normally. >>>> >>>> In other words no HHH of the set of HHH/DDD pairs ever succeeds to >>>> complete the simulation of a halting program. Failure to reach the end >>>> of a halting program is not a great success. If all HHH in this set >>>> fail, it would be better to change your mind and start working on >>>> something more useful. >>> >>> He seems to think that he's written a program that detects that >>> his thing hasn't 'reached its "return" instruction and >>> terminate[d] normally', given some number of steps, where that >>> number is ... the cardinality of the natural numbers. >>> >>> I wonder if he knows that the set of natural numbers is >>> infintite, though I suspect he'd say something like, "but it's >>> countable!" To which I'd surmise that he has no idea what that >>> means. >>> >> >> void DDD() >> { >> HHH(DDD); >> return; >> } >> >> Everyone here knows that when N steps of DDD are correctly >> simulated by HHH that DDD never reaches its own "return" >> instruction and terminates normally thus never halts. > > > Why would we be interested in your simulator that is not able to reach > the end of the program described in its input when direct execution and > world-class simulators are perfectly able to reach that end of exactly > the same input? I am going to ignore all of your nonsense posts. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer