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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Python recompile Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 16:49:10 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <vqvqtp$49sk$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq1qas$j22$1@gallifrey.nk.ca> <vqi1ge$8jg8$1@dont-email.me> <vqibt3$ahu0$3@dont-email.me> <vqiibq$bq1o$7@dont-email.me> <20250309012626.00001276@yahoo.com> <vqiugc$dv5o$2@dont-email.me> <vql9fu$vluh$1@dont-email.me> <vqlfrj$10rr4$2@dont-email.me> <vqli6g$114cj$3@dont-email.me> <vqm0b9$179ca$1@dont-email.me> <vqnfvp$1gsl4$2@dont-email.me> <20250310135828.116@kylheku.com> <vqnkdq$1gsl4$6@dont-email.me> <vqnmbn$1i1s0$6@dont-email.me> <vqnmig$1ie8j$2@dont-email.me> <vqns51$1jibk$5@dont-email.me> <vqo5hd$1lant$1@dont-email.me> <vqo9df$1ls6a$2@dont-email.me> <vqoe8o$1qblf$1@dont-email.me> <vqolqv$1rfnf$5@dont-email.me> <vqq8v2$262gq$1@dont-email.me> <vqqf3r$273mt$6@dont-email.me> <vqqjra$286h8$2@dont-email.me> <vqqlff$28fls$7@dont-email.me> <vqqtjv$2a3dv$1@dont-email.me> <vqqu21$2a18r$3@dont-email.me> <vqr25u$2eit2$1@dont-email.me> <vqras6$2fsqk$1@dont-email.me> <vqtq8v$33itc$1@dont-email.me> <vqvfl6$3rsid$2@dont-email.me> <vqvqmq$49pc$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 00:49:13 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="20df43b50ab9261545a619b97260a04e"; logging-data="141204"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+AeAlwfEfPEB2ym7KfScifd9pgfs4cwv8=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:H6yfi+hMsUdMrfJkIsyK8Gcvkvg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vqvqmq$49pc$1@dont-email.me> On 3/13/2025 4:45 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 3/13/2025 1:36 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 22:25:49 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> >>> On 3/11/2025 11:50 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 21:22:22 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:12 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 20:04:30 -0700, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> IOCP works fine ... >>>>>> >>>>>> But not with pipes. >>>>> >>>>> Never tried them with pipes, only sockets. >>>> >>>> The Python developers have tried. They ended up creating two event loop >>>> implementations on Windows, neither of which quite covers all the bases >>>> <https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-eventloop.html#event- >>>> loop-implementations>. >>> >>> For some damn reason, I don't think you have tried IOCP with sockets, >>> pipes, ect, even Linux AIO? >> >> If you think you know something the Python developers overlooked in >> their Windows implementation, feel free to tell us about it. > > Are you part of their development team? I have no idea how the Python > dev's use IOCP with sockets. I know how I used to use it. I also don't > know how many of them read that paper on the 50,000 concurrent > connection contest wrt events vs IOCP. It's been many years since I have > read it. There were many interesting tips and tricks... Also, there was > this other paper I read on a so-called staged server design. > > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~StagedDB/papers/CMU-CS-02-113.pdf > > I am having a little trouble finding the other paper... > > Damn! Actually, I am having some more thoughts it might of been in a damn book! God it been years. Back in early 2000's.