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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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On 3/13/2025 8:23 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 12:52:26 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/12/2025 11:24 PM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:20:42 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/12/2025 5:32 AM, John B. wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:19:11 -0400, zen cycle
>>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:45 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:20:18 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish for firearms, and
>>>>>>>>>> the effect it has on society. And I exhibit scorn for paranoia so
>>>>>>>>>> severe as to cause a person to _require_ a firearm to do ordinary
>>>>>>>>>> things like ride a quiet bike path, drive a car, fill a gas tank, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. Not this one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. One classmate of
>>>>>>>>>> mine in an adult education class brought his handgun to a class picnic
>>>>>>>>>> in the country. Nice guy, but that was crazy paranoia. Another guy,
>>>>>>>>>> less admirable in general, bragged to me about carrying his handgun
>>>>>>>>>> into a folk music concert we attended. Absolute stupidity, and crazy
>>>>>>>>>> paranoia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that he used a special
>>>>>>>>>> stand to hold his guitar out away from his belly. Maybe his physical
>>>>>>>>>> shortcomings triggered feelings of great vulnerability, as with Mr.
>>>>>>>>>> Tricycle? Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off the charts crazy -
>>>>>>>>>> as is Mr. Tricycle's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'.
>>>>>>>>> Same argument.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain that this
>>>>>>>>> shopping  mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced a deranged madman
>>>>>>>>> shooting into a crown before, and most probably never will again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, on one fine July day, it happened.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed-citizen-landed-8-
>>>>>>>>> of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass-shooting-in-15-seconds/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying only days after the
>>>>>>>>> Indiana statute had changed to allow carry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without preparation is
>>>>>>>>> excellent marksmanship. Not achievable without some diligence and range
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for personal protection and
>>>>>>>> never take the time and diligence. If there was a law requiring range
>>>>>>>> time and accuracy to carry a gun, I'd be a lot more confident in the
>>>>>>>> general public carrying guns. Instead, cases like this are far more
>>>>>>>> prevalent:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots-and-kills-mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah But, as your reference states the boyfriend committed an illegal
>>>>>>> act, and was charged, The Florida guy is talking about a legal act.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A bit of a difference, wouldn't one think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not much. The gun fetishists (lobby) thinks any restrictions on gun
>>>>>> ownership are unconstitutional. In their (small) minds, the boyfriend
>>>>>> did nothing wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Re restrictions on gun ownership???
>>>>>
>>>>> The first piece of national gun control legislation was passed on June
>>>>> 26, 1934. The National Firearms Act (NFA)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which is not germane to the point that the gun fetishists (lobby) think
>>>> any restrictions on gun ownership are unconstitutional.
>>>
>>>
>>> Really?  Is the NRA advocating fully automatic weapons, extremely
>>> short barrel rifles, etc., that the NFA bans?
>>
>> 1) fully auto weapons are legal but with restrictions.
>>
>> Not officially, but there are those who do agree with unlimited
>> ownership, especially automatic weapons.
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/4b18us/cmv_we_should_legalize_fully_automatic_weapons/?rdt=40807
> 
> Yup... one in the discussion group... 

Did you bother to read the discussion? It's more than one, and as 
someone who lives in the US and is exposed to the gun fetishists

> rather like Frank and his
> coward.

Who is"Frank's Coward"? The floriduh dumbass who's afraid to leave his 
house without his gun? Sure, I'll buy that.

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