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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Libraries won't stand up for First Amendment Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 12:36:38 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: <vr1lun$1l0ti$2@dont-email.me> References: <vl4dql$2v5nn$1@dont-email.me> <vr0hq6$oq7c$1@dont-email.me> <vr0n0a$7mqr$2@dont-email.me> <vr1kmv$1ja5i$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: nobody@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 17:36:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="382f6666e795f58981e68edda0d7a588"; logging-data="1737650"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18W0VJEoZuqNt+eucmXMaz8O7DRqM+7yqE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/9Gu9VqJ6HV+bBPhCTLl2ldN/Xg= In-Reply-To: <vr1kmv$1ja5i$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 3/14/2025 12:15 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >> On 2025-03-14 2:19 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >>> I went by the library a little after 4 pm. Its parking lot was closed. The >>> street in front of the library was blocked off at the intersection to the >>> north, and to the south between the library and village hall. There were >>> four large public works trucks used to create the blockade, plus four >>> squad cars. I saw four police officers outside and one inside the library. > >>> I had a book to return, so I walked in. The west entrance was closed amd >>> the book return bins were closed. The east entrance was open. > >>> It finally dawned on me that Israelism was being shown, the >>> pro-Palestinian film made by two Jewish directors and sponsored by >>> several pro-Palestinian/anti-Netanyahu groups. > >>> Last fall, they were opposed by Jewish groups that were either >>> pro-Netanyahu or didn't publicly object to Netanyahu. An 8,000 message >>> email campaign opposing the showing of this movie got its screening >>> cancelled at one library after it had been scheduled, and not scheduled >>> at another library. > >>> I asked both library staff and the cops but neither confirmed that >>> Israelism was to be screened. > >>> The locked book bins? I'm guessing that's fear of pipe bombs. > >>> I'm going to look into this further. Who ate the cost for security for >>> this event? Last fall, the library was slammed by the ACLU for demanding >>> $3,000 for insurance and security costs to agree to re-schedule the >>> film. So who ate the cost of extra security? > >>> It is my position that, even though the film was eventually screened, >>> the security burden is an unconstitutional abridgement of freedom of the >>> press. Also, making the library appear to be closed despite being open >>> for business abridges freedom of the press too. > >>> The First Amendment has no exception for fear of violence. > >>> I called it in to Chicago Sun-Times and spoke to a reporter. > >> Good on you, Adam. I'm sure a part of your soul was screaming at the >> thought of what the film was saying against Jews and Israel and in >> favour of Hamas but you stuck to your rock-solid belief in the First >> Amendment and acted to protect the filmmakers' (and library's) right to >> show it. > > The video is not pro-Hamas. I know of no serious Jewish groups that are > pro-Hamas. The video was produced before the attack by Hamas. > > It's about how miserable life is in the West Bank for Palestinians. I > have no objection to its production. I'm sure it's all full of political > spin and intended to be manipulative. It may even be good propaganda. Interesting question: Is 'good propaganda' an oxymoron? > I have my own opinion on the West Bank and do not need to defend nor > criticize the government of Israel. It doesn't bother me at all that > there is criticism of Israel. Plenty of people believe falsehoods, but > that's on them. > > That's what's important about liberty. No one need ask my permission for > what to say, write, or think. That puts the responsibility upon them for > what they believe, where it belongs. Interesting question: Can we choose what we believe?