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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Most disappointing films. Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 21:31:58 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 82 Message-ID: <vr278e$23o0a$1@dont-email.me> References: <vovrtm$18b9h$1@dont-email.me> <f0dc1e8c-b338-1261-cf4d-5ff6d5f503e4@example.net> <m1hut2FkdncU2@mid.individual.net> <ccfafd92-78a6-f626-3765-7dfd08946d58@example.net> <vp3du5$1v8ri$1@dont-email.me> <esugsjhbnubfl3hits46crphp9npmk67cb@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:31:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="77a8e50b23ac5c76cfcab2155d278f8d"; logging-data="2220042"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ZQLsourLUAMF1i7XrrsSvtfhlZ7w1J3Y=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dMJhRQE0FPggxJbDGycUsSrt2vA= In-Reply-To: <esugsjhbnubfl3hits46crphp9npmk67cb@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 4551 On 05/03/2025 16:46, Paul S Person wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:59:32 -0600, Lynn McGuire > <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2/18/2025 3:30 AM, D wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 17 Feb 2025, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <f0dc1e8c-b338-1261-cf4d-5ff6d5f503e4@example.net>, >>>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2025, William Hyde wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In a conversation the other day I came up with a list of these, and >>>>>> to my >>>>>> surprise they were all SF/F. >>>>>> >>>>>> (1) The Return of the Jedi >>>>>> >>>>>> (2) The Lord of the Rings (Bakshi version) >>>>>> >>>>>> (3) Dune (Lynch version). >>>>>> >>>>>> Not that I haven't seen far worse movies, but in each of these cases >>>>>> I was >>>>>> expecting something better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course other people may have different lists. And I did like Dune >>>>>> somewhat more the second time I saw it. >>>>>> >>>>>> William Hyde >>>>> >>>>> I agree with Dune. LOTR (b) I saw when I was 12, haven't seen it >>>>> since, so >>>>> cannot say. I like 1. On my list are all the new star wars movies. >>>>> Absolutely horrible! They should have let the original 3 stand, and not >>>>> produce prequels that dishonored the memory of hte original. =( >>>> >>>> Rogue One is pretty good. >>> >>> Maybe I shall have to look into Rogue one. Andor is pretty good. Maybe >>> Rogue one is too? >>> >>>> I actually quite enjoyed TFA, but then I didn't believe Han was >>>> actually dead (I was pretty sure that with the big build-up on Maz, >>>> her connection with the Force and having gotten a light saber >>>> possibly through teleportational menas that she was going to pull >>>> some mojo that would be revealed later. TMF me.) >> >> "Rogue One" is awesome. It is based on the single line in the Star Wars >> IV movie (the first one), "Many Bothans ??? gave up their lives for this >> information.". > > /A New Hope/ (aka Star Wars IV) came up for viewing about a week ago. > That line was not in it. > > I certainly do remember it. I suspect I will hear it again when I > watch /The Return of the Jedi/ within the next week or so. In that > case, it refers to the information that the Emperor is residing on the > new Death Star and perhaps also the misinformation that that Death > Star is not operational. > > Which doesn't prevent someone involved in making /Rogue One/ from > claiming that they were basing it on that line. It would, however, > show why I don't put a lot of stock in "making of" documentaries, > since it would be clearly wrong. > > I saw /The Empire Strikes Back/ last night. The two-seater aircraft > (pilot and gunner, back to back) used to attack Imperial Walkers > towards the start of the film are "Rogue 2", Rogue 3", and Rogue 4", > per the credits not just on IMDb but shown on the film itself -- > which, BTW, is the original unaltered LD version Lucas grudgingly > allowed to be put out on an extras disk. Hey, at least it letterboxed! > No "Rogue 1" is listed, but then, that call sign was no doubt retired > after the events in /Rogue One/. I think it may be that #1 is (1) "Rogue Leader" and (2) a named character. I think Luke is in that fight but in an X-Wing?