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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ed P <esp@snet.n> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: Last night was "surf and coop." Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 19:23:03 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vr2don$282ec$1@dont-email.me> References: <67caf01a$13$1786$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <47c0744f2bd51cc37e867bf09eed7ae7@www.novabbs.org> <452ff357f9191c16a0cd7fe8d0f711c7@www.novabbs.com> <vqf8eb$3k5i2$2@dont-email.me> <vqfaec$3l2cv$1@dont-email.me> <vqfaml$3l8ss$1@dont-email.me> <d3ff7e3edfc736f264af2e0cb0e0a668@www.novabbs.com> <vqg5mb$3qgfp$1@dont-email.me> <vqg6cp$3qk04$1@dont-email.me> <df2a11b019e46f9dae54c8fc9f08aed1@www.novabbs.com> <vqhjit$5sjf$2@dont-email.me> <vqhl90$6ets$1@dont-email.me> <o9ZyP.193801$zz8b.47552@fx09.iad> <vqhv9r$83q2$1@dont-email.me> <Sf0zP.258394$BrX.85731@fx12.iad> <vqigjj$bklf$1@dont-email.me> <vqiguq$blbv$1@dont-email.me> <vqqjqp$28bki$1@dont-email.me> <vr1m9g$1kmog$1@dont-email.me> <vr1to9$1rp2u$4@dont-email.me> <QK1BP.479235$SZca.475540@fx13.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 00:23:04 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1cf3e5d6a8686a326020d1c7b0d5c613"; logging-data="2361804"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+u0DKnDCnhdQ1yMPwgqGf7D2he6o2HoA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NYC/OjtXyi70JnnyvI85tFWfj58= In-Reply-To: <QK1BP.479235$SZca.475540@fx13.iad> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4500 On 3/14/2025 6:05 PM, Dave Smith wrote: > On 2025-03-14 2:49 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote: >> On 2025-03-14, Jill McQuown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Employees are required to pay them more if their tips don't bring >> them up to $7.25/hour. Still a pittance, especially considering >> how hard they work and what they have to put up with. > > > How hard they work and what they have to put up with? I realize they > have to hustle and have to deal with idiots but my sympathy my be a > little restrained when I think back to some of the jobs I had as a kind > that paid peanuts. I was a paper boy who had to deliver a heavy bag of > papers on a two mile route regardless of the weather. I was out on the > hottest days of summer and the coldest days of winter, in the heavy snow > and pouring rain. I made next to nothing doing it and I also had to go > around and collect every week which took 5 times longer than delivery, > and trying to squeeze that 60 cents a week out of adults. Then the > summer I was 14 I worked for a house builder making basements for $1 and > hour, sweating my ass off in a huge hole in the ground and and pushing > around a bug construction size wheelbarrow loaded with gravel or > cement. I picked strawberries in a field in the glaring sun for what > amounted to about 55 cents an hour. > > I had a much better summer job while I was at university. I worked in > the furnace room of an alloy smelting plant. I rarely had to work more > than 15-20 minutes every hour but when I did it was usually hotter than > an oven. I had to wear long johns and a heavy wool coat to protect me > from the heat. I got burned almost every day on the job and one day > someone was killed in the job. Hell I was replacing a guy who had been > injured on the job and was off for four months. I later worked for the > highways department in various positions. Four people I had worked with > were killed on the job. And servers have to carry heavy trays and be > nice to people? >> >> Let's see some server jobs available near me. >> >> $14-$20/hour >> $14-21/hour >> $15-$50/hour >> $20-35/hour >> $15-25/hour >> >> Now, maybe there's some kind of bait-and-switch, where these are >> estimates that include tips. >> >> Shit, McDonald's is offering $17/hour for "Crew Team Member" jobs. >> > Hard to put that into perspective. In 1966, I earned $5760. At that time, I had a decent used car that was paid for. i got married. We bought a house and furnished it. In 1970, I earned $8300, had a different used car, same house with two kids and my wife was always a SAHM. My first house is now valued at about 20X what I paid.