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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Nick Finnigan <nix@genie.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,uk.telecom.mobile Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=22=27Scammers_stole_=C2=A340k_after_EDF_gave_out_m?= =?UTF-8?Q?y_number=22?= Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 09:53:49 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <vr3ind$34sjd$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq478a$1a6p9$1@dont-email.me> <m2sdlgF2fjiU1@mid.individual.net> <vqc9e4$30gdm$1@dont-email.me> <m2u1avF9uqaU1@mid.individual.net> <vqcug0$345ts$1@dont-email.me> <vqes1l$3i7oj$1@dont-email.me> <vqf0ca$3j5oo$1@dont-email.me> <buh*n6r9z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:53:50 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8f7d42d782f5ec5daf5faa550a5fc8f4"; logging-data="3306093"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+Uvp5L3QbNY4hbneLBzk8" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/4lrBQCb7glymN8qlA1nCTht15k= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <buh*n6r9z@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Bytes: 2092 On 14/03/2025 18:49, Theo wrote: > > Speculating, I would guess they started with the SIM swap. I don't know the > O2 procedure, but it's possible to have SIMs which are unregistered or only > lightly registered (eg no online account). In that case there isn't much > security information the operator has, or it could be easy to find out > (pet's name, place of birth, etc). Scammer contacts the provider to say you > broke your SIM card and need a new one and they don't have very much to > authenticate you. Is that SIM card in a phone which they can still see on their network? If they can make that stick they can maybe then do a > password reset on the email which uses SMS as a recovery mechanism, and then > they're in. > > Theo