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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Dead Vermont cyclist Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:17:38 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vr3k43$39cr0$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqtaer$2t56v$1@dont-email.me> <g275tjp3c45t68hmc4q804o96rjnvrrqil@4ax.com> <74b6tjhm5rlu81m4ie4t7nara8bc9u9v7f@4ax.com> <vqvi41$3u159$1@dont-email.me> <ttj6tjlgejhasndn8na25k5euiu9immgi1@4ax.com> <vr000c$89e5$1@dont-email.me> <tc27tjppi5h1oo67pee2oi32dupullscec@4ax.com> <vr1isf$1hd8g$2@dont-email.me> <pfp8tj5hk5fgk382fedfstv3m26k2q2ej9@4ax.com> <vr1uvh$1ssav$2@dont-email.me> <vr204r$1c7fh$6@dont-email.me> <vr220m$1vp63$1@dont-email.me> <t159tjtd7bc91j05rvp0bbhf93bc4fq8lq@4ax.com> <m3jmdiFi20vU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 11:17:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4db5ddcfdbfff08c6f116e377c6258c0"; logging-data="3453792"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+tD9PHH/VKPO2Fq0WT2dPOQvY3LkEPc8M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:hZRrQXr5zC6zncEdDHJxI18x7Wo= In-Reply-To: <m3jmdiFi20vU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3476 > floriduh dumbass <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:02:31 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >> >>> On 3/14/2025 2:30 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>>> On 3/14/2025 1:25 PM, floriduh dumbass wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:44:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nope, I'm not sympathetic. What rule could be more >>>>>>> fundamental than >>>>>>> "Don't hit someone walking (or bicycling) with your car"? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And if killing someone with your car isn't sufficient >>>>>>> for forbidding >>>>>>> future driving, what would be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the permission to drive really more important than a >>>>>>> person's life? >>>>>> >>>>>> Isn't there a law against riding your bicycle in the path >>>>>> of a moving >>>>>> car? >>>> >>>> no, dumbass. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The actual situation on the ground can be wildly different >>> depending on the statute, local road design, marking, >>> signage and practice, the personalities involved and >>> whatever the judge ate for lunch. >>> >>> http://flbikelaw.org/2010/03/two-citations-identical-circumstances-opposite-verdicts/ >> >> I'm pretty sure that if I ride the Catrike out onto the road in front >> of a moving truck, my estate would be liable for his broken headlight. This is another reason you have no credibility. You comment on the legality of an act in the state you live in without bothering to look it up (as if you don't have time to do it). Here are a few links that took me literally less than 5 minutes to find. Try commenting again without your Cloak of Ignorance https://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/316.2065 https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/driving-safety/share-the-road/ https://bikewalkcentralflorida.org/resources/bike-laws/#:~:text= https://dwpersonalinjurylaw.com/bicyclists-and-right-of-way-addressing-common-misconceptions-in-florida/