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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- posthumous reviewers Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:24:19 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vr3kgj$3avig$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqntaq$1jut5$1@dont-email.me> <vqp388$1tvqa$1@dont-email.me> <vqpdv9$202b2$2@dont-email.me> <vqperb$20c9k$2@dont-email.me> <E6mcnWv3nMa66036nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vqpv2u$23vhr$1@dont-email.me> <Ny-dnRlMHcVpA036nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vqrjrn$2h4l2$1@dont-email.me> <nESdnUfJxdhoTkz6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vqsl7c$2ok91$1@dont-email.me> <f7b6995ae3e79db00fa5070d9be8126b7ea5ae78@i2pn2.org> <vqt99l$2spcd$5@dont-email.me> <vqu84v$363tm$1@dont-email.me> <vqvgpn$3s1qt$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 11:24:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d2e2de52757e195a20d9010a48424fcd"; logging-data="3505744"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18lSQjm3sgBV1x1GWirAwfq" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:G4UQwFJxeeLjfgSEHhJ+ZJ+tqjU= Bytes: 3158 On 2025-03-13 20:56:22 +0000, olcott said: > On 3/13/2025 4:22 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2025-03-13 00:36:04 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> >>> void DDD() >>> { >>> HHH(DDD); >>> return; >>> } >>> >>> int DD() >>> { >>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>> if (Halt_Status) >>> HERE: goto HERE; >>> return Halt_Status; >>> } >>> >>> When HHH correctly emulates N steps of the >>> above functions none of them can possibly reach >>> their own "return" instruction and terminate normally. >> >> Nevertheless, assuming HHH is a decider, Infinite_Loop and Infinite_Recursion >> specify a non-terminating behaviour, DDD specifies a terminating behaviour > > _DDD() > [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD > [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) > [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002182] 5d pop ebp > [00002183] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] > > What is the sequence of machine language > instructions of DDD emulated by HHH such that DDD > reaches its machine address 00002183? > > Any failure to answer with the sequence of machine > addresses will be construed as > YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE LYING OR DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTON That a question is not answered is not a lie. That is unfortunate as if iit were it would be much easier to point out that you are a liar. But it isn't so we can only call you a liar when you actually say sometning. If you really want to be called a liar when you don't answer some question then say so and tell why so that we may try to find some solution. -- Mikko