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From: The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator
 (rec.arts.drwho.moderated etc.)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:53:46 -0000 (UTC)
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On 15/03/2025 10:37, Blueshirt wrote:
>Daniel70 wrote:
>
>> On 15/03/2025 8:33 pm, Blueshirt wrote:
>> > The Doctor wrote:
>> > > In article <vr1jjk$k3k$2@reader1.panix.com>, Usenet Big-8
>> > > Management Board  <board@big-8.org> wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > rec.arts.drwho.moderated
>> > > > 
>> > > > These groups have long been derelict due to the lack of
>> > > > a moderator.
>> > > > 
>> > > > If any readers of this notice are willing to serve as
>> > > > moderator for any of these groups, and have the
>> > > > technical infrastructure to do so, they are encouraged
>> > > > to contact the Big-8 Management Board by replying by
>> > > > e-mail to this message.  The Board is happy to advise
>> > > > prospective moderators on the technical and procedural
>> > > > requirements.
>> > > 
>> > > let it go!
>> > 
>> > Phew! I'm glad you said that Dave... when I saw that message
>> > from the Big-8 Board I thought you might be the one person
>> > here that would volunteer to become the moderator of RADWM!
>> 
>> I was EXPECTING Binky to stick his hand up .... but, maybe,
>> his High Powered ISP/NSP Business is keeping him too busy!!
>
>I really did think it would be something Dave might go for. He
>probably has the right equipment too. Dave did go for the
>moderator job when that group was first announced to counter all
>the "noise" (word of the week!) here.
>
>RADW isn't busy enough now though so we don't need a moderated
>group. (IMO obviously.)
>
>> > My view is moderated groups equal censorship and go against
>> > the whole idea behind Usenet... so yeah, let it go.
>> > 
>> Never having been exposed to one, I couldn't possibly
>> comment!! ;-P
>
>Imagine somebody reading every one of your posts and deciding
>what was acceptable content, or not, before letting it go
>through to the actual group to be read? I'm sure moderation
>works well on some Usenet groups but moderation as a system is
>open to abuse as you are at the whim of the moderator(s) and
>their individual opinions and tolerances. Moderation is another
>word for censorship, as if the moderator doesn't like what you
>say, your post gets stopped and doesn't 'appear'. So, censored!

Oh, I think a little technical moderation can be a good thing.

Imagine if this newsgroup permitted all messages that:

1. Contained 10 or more words of original content (A/I generated text,and
 large scale copy/pasting from other sources not permitted - a link, with
 personal commentary, would be the right way to go here)

2. Did not personally defame or attack another poster

3. Snipped replied-to content to a couple of sentences relevant to context
 for each point being made

4. Did not repeat the same catchphrases and pointless intersections over and
 over.

For 96% of posters to this group, 99% of their posts would get through (once
 they mastered the basic netiquette of snipping for context!)

As for the other 4%, well, he'd have to learn how to post properly or be
 forever silenced.

-- 
There’s no point in being grown up if you can’t act a little childish
 sometimes.